The perversity of Dan Hannan and the “there are no cuts” brigade

Daniel Hannan and that 'there are no public sector cuts' brigade are being perverse. By their framing, we could end up much poorer & they could declare victory.

Daniel Hannan was at it again in the Daily Telegraph on Wednesday insisting that only the ignorant, willfully or otherwise, could insist that there were no cuts. He proclaimed:

“Total government spending has risen in every month since the Coalition was formed, and now stands five per cent above where it was in the final demented weeks of Gordon Brown’s splurge. Borrowing, too, has risen: the government will write IOUs worth £127 billion this year.”

We can argue out on the statistics – that Hannan has not taken into account inflation, or the rising healthcare costs of an ageing population.

But the real problem with Hannan and the rest of the ‘there’s no cuts’  brigade’s framing is that we could, in theory, enter into an economic downward spiral landing us somewhere in the stone age, and they could declare victory. How so?

What Hannan and company are skipping over is that no Government decides to ‘cut total spending’. Governments decide to cut discretionary spending – spending on the stuff we want to spend on like healthcare, education, parks and so on. Such spending is due to be cut from 27% of GDP in 2010 to just 20% of GDP in 2014-15.

But there’s also mandatory spending, like unemployment benefit and debt repayment, that government doesn’t get to decide whether it pours money into – events force it to do so.

You can argue until the cows come home that total spending is not coming down. But its discretionary spending that the public policy argument centres on, and what voters feel.

Crudely put, the right-wing analysis of the situation is that the government is just like a household, and the deficit is an irreducible problem – its primary cause is spending more than you tax. So if you cut discretionary spending, hey presto, the deficit is closed. (Logically there is another option – raising taxes – but the right tend to find their inner stimulater when the dread T-word is mentioned.)

Equally crudely put, the Keynesian analysis is that the state is so huge – currently government spending makes up 46 per cent of GDP – that it has far more symbiotic relationship with the economy as a whole.

If you cut discretionary spending, by lets say sacking public sector workers,  then mandatory spending – in the form of unemployment benefit for example – goes up. Furthermore as demand is sucked  out of the economy, tax receipts fall, and as the government is forced to borrow more to make up the shortfall, so do interest payments on debt.

To put it another way, a government deficit is not an irreducible problem but a symptom of a bigger problem – a contracting or slow-growth economy caused by lack of demand.

If demand is low, growth fails and the state ends up in deficit. If the economy grows fast enough, the government will end up in surplus.

The right characterise Keynesians as arguing for greater spending. This is not quite true. Keynesians argue that you have less of a choice on spending that you think you do, and that as you cut discretionary spending, mandatory spending goes up.

The stronger you believe that what we face is a demand crisis, the greater you believe the trade off to be. That is why Arch-Keynesian Lord Robert Skidelsky made such a savage attack on much of the thinking behind the ‘There is no such thing as cuts’ brigade on Tuesday.

To be fair to Hannan, he does give ammunition to this Keynesian view in his collumn, while also side swiping at his pet peeves – the EU, foreign aid, and the NHS:

“[Osborne]  has made reductions in various departmental budgets, but these savings have been more than offset by rises elsewhere – higher benefits claims, debt interest payments, increased spending on healthcare and foreign aid and, not least, much larger contributions to the EU.”

He even quotes a graph from the Spectator’s Coffee House blog that can make the Keynesian case:

” I draw particularly to the attention of any teachers and LEA officials who joined today’s strike: by the end of this parliament, we’ll be spending more on debt interest than on the entire education budget (hat-tip, Peter Hoskin):

 

At best the “There are no cuts brigade” can say that we are spending less on what we want to spend on and more on what we have to spend on. To most people in the country those are cuts to the public services that affect their lives, and to claim there are no cuts is fairly callous.

It is in effect saying “Yes, we realise that your Sure Start Centre has had to shut down, but because there’s a whole bunch of people now in the dole, there are no cuts’

At the very worst, we are tackling a demand crisis by cutting demand. This will lock us in to a downward economic spiral of ever increasing debt. We will all end up much poorer, but because we are spending billions on jobseekers allowance and debt repayment, instead of schools and hospitals and so on, Daniel Hannan, John Redwood et al will be able to claim vindication. And it will be utterly miserable.

See also:

Lebanese politicians hurl glasses and chairs at each other on live TV – Alex Hern, November 25th 2011

The case for spending to save has been made and won, so do it already – Joe Randall, November 23rd 2011

What has Europe ever done for us? Well… – Tony Burke, November 5th 2011

Toby Young is wrong about the cuts and wrong about the march – Nicola Smith, March 29th 2011

Exposé of Daniel Hannan’s “Ten reasons to leave the EU” – Shamik Das, December 22nd 2009

79 Responses to “The perversity of Dan Hannan and the “there are no cuts” brigade”

  1. David Marsden

    The perversity of Dan Hannan and the “there are no cuts” brigade l Left Foot Forward – http://t.co/bh8keJUe

  2. Little Angussie

    OPEN your eyes chum – in case you havent noticed we are in the eye of a storm and have never recovered from the 2008 crash – it is going to get much worse for everyone so the best thing you can do is stop grousing and grumbling about cust that have still to happen.

    make no mistake – we will ALL be much poorer off before this finishes. We know Brown’s recklessness played a large part of this economic downward rush to the bottom – we dont know the damage it will cause in the future but by god it is going to be grim.

    Waken up man

  3. John Kolm-Murray

    The perversity of @DanHannanMEP and the “there are no cuts” brigade: http://t.co/k4MQO5lg by @danielelton #publicsectorcuts #N30

  4. Anonymous

    What Hannan and company are skipping over is that no Government decides to ‘cut total spending’.
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    Twaddle. Labour planned to cut total spending because it planned to halve the deficit.

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    We can argue out on the statistics
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    No you can’t. Either its true or its not. It is true. Total levels of spending have risen.

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    Hannan has not taken into account inflation, or the rising healthcare costs of an ageing population.
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    Inflation – irrelevant. Most of it is caused by government keeping interest rates too low. The BoE has repeatedly had to write a grovelling letter saying it hasn’t controlled inflation, please please let me have another go.

    Meanwhile, in the biggest insider trading scam, Mervyn King and his mates have moved their pensions into inflation linked gilts, betting that they won’t succeed their prime aim, controlling inflation. The reason is that they have no intention of controlling inflation.

    So what cuts are there? There are cuts in some areas, and increases in other areas, and net spending is up.

    An investment either results in lower spending, or it produces an income. In the case of the NHS, its the first. You’ve spent billions. Now its the pay off. That investment will result in lower NHS spending. The Tories are just doing what was Labour’s plan.

  5. Nicholas Ripley

    The perversity of Dan Hannan and the “there are no cuts” brigade /by @danielelton http://t.co/IjrZ5g8s

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