Kellner: The public don’t like the Tories, but they’ve signed up to their economic argument

Daniel Elton covers the latest data from YouGov and finds that unpopular as they may be, the Tories rhetoric on the economy still rules the roost.

The Conservative Party is once again the nasty party of British politics. On the eve of the chancellor’s last ditch effort to avoid recession and the biggest strike in a generation, the electorate have decided that the Tories are essentially, not very nice.

In his latest commentary, polling company YouGov’s president Peter Kellner points out that barely a quarter of voters think the government is managing public sector cuts fairly, compared to 57 per cent who think they are  unfair. More than 2/5th of the electorate believe the cuts are too deep, while ten per cent think they are not deep enough and one quarter think they are about right.

It’s the same story across YouGov’s polling. When asked if the government is good or bad for ‘people like you’ more than half, 51 per cent, say no while less than a quarter – 23 per cent – say yes. 49 per cent of all voters think that it is more true of the Conservatives than any other party that:

“It appeals to one section of society more than to the whole country.”

If David Cameron’s leadership has been the search for a conservatism that makes voters feel part of one nation that can identify with his party, he has failed. “All in this together”, cosy webchats by the washing up and the big society have fallen flat.

The Conservatives may have spun their general election manifesto as “an invitation to join the government of Britain”, but the electorate has responded ‘no thanks’, having decided their not really like us, after all.

But the more critical political point may be that the Conservatives appear, at the moment, to have won the economic debate. Kellner highlights that:

By two-to-one (56-27 per cent) voters think the public spending cuts are necessary. The proportion saying ‘necessary’ has remained stable since February. The only change since then is that slightly FEWER people say the cuts are ‘unnecessary’, while slightly more don’t know. The opponents of cuts have made no headway for the past nine months.

“More people still blame Labour (38 per cent) rather than the Coalition (22 per cent) for the current spending cuts. If anything, the coalition’s position has slightly improved since the summer, when blame for the Coalition reached 26 per cent on a number of occasions.

“In short, the Conservatives continue to win the argument that they are cleaning up a mess they inherited.”

Those on the Left may cling to the narrative that goes something like this: On the eve of the 2008 crisis, UK government debt as a proportion of GDP was still below that taken on by Labour in the ‘golden economic inheritance’ of 1997. Large government debt was wracked up by the need to bailout the finance industry. It is they who should pay, not public sector users and workers.

But to hold that narrative would put you in a minority. The public has signed on to Tory explanation that Labour deficits in the run up to 2008, often spent wastefully, made it harder for the UK to deal with the crisis, and the key to long-term stability is to cut away at the public sector.

As Kellner concludes:

“Bluntly, they [Labour] have failed to make an impact. This is why Labour’s voting-intention lead [with YouGov] averages just five per cent. At this stage in a parliament’s life, as we approach its mid-term, an economy as weak as Britain’s would normally expect to be accompanied by a double-digit lead for the opposition.

“Even worse for Labour, they actually lag behind on our ‘forced choice’ question: If you had to choose, which would you prefer to see after the next election, a Conservative government led by David Cameron or a Labour government led by Ed Miliband? Our latest figures show Conservatives/Cameron on 40 per cent and Labour/Miliband on 35 per cent.

“For the moment, the Conservatives seem to have the Teflon factor on their side, for they have managed to stop the autumn’s bad economic news from sticking to them and messing up their reputation.”

The Left can paint the Tories as nasty as it likes. As long as the public side with the government on the economic analysis, they will be extremely difficult to assail.

See also:

Osborne’s cuts having “damaging effect” on Northern Ireland peace processKevin Meagher, November 10th 2011

Fast spending cuts push economy from fastest quarterly growth for a decade towards zeroCormac Hollingsworth, November 1st 2011

For every extra £4 spending is cut, it only cuts borrowing an extra 75pCormac Hollingsworth, October 18th 2011

Balls calls for growth now, and cuts laterAlex Hern, September 26th 2011

Growth cut the 2010-11 deficit as fast as cutsCormac Hollingsworth, September 22nd 2011

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24 Responses to “Kellner: The public don’t like the Tories, but they’ve signed up to their economic argument”

  1. David Taylor

    The public don't like the Tories, but they've signed up to their economic argument, writes @danielelton: http://t.co/60F3HRcp

  2. Political Planet

    Kellner: The public don’t like the Tories, but they’ve signed up to their economic argument: Daniel Elton covers… http://t.co/3aRQu0ku

  3. Michael

    The public don’t like the Tories, but they’ve signed up to their economic argument – http://t.co/VsJ75yfA For now but the tide is turning.

  4. Ben Mitchell

    The public don't like the Tories, but they've signed up to their economic argument, writes @danielelton: http://t.co/60F3HRcp

  5. Alex Braithwaite

    RT @leftfootfwd: Kellner: The public don't like the Tories, but they've signed up to their economic argument http://t.co/EKbR1a1s

  6. Anonymous

    That’s because the public are ignorant because governments – all of them – are running a false set of accounts.

    Ask each taxpayer if they can afford to pay 225,000 of debt with interest (RPI linked), and then ask them if the cuts are deep enough.

  7. Will Straw

    43% think cuts are too deep (only 10% say too shallow) but I dont hold out any hope for fiscal easing tomorrow: http://t.co/I2LKE7TH

  8. Nicole Johnston

    43% think cuts are too deep (only 10% say too shallow) but I dont hold out any hope for fiscal easing tomorrow: http://t.co/I2LKE7TH

  9. Geoffrey Pearson

    43% think cuts are too deep (only 10% say too shallow) but I dont hold out any hope for fiscal easing tomorrow: http://t.co/I2LKE7TH

  10. CAROLE JONES

    43% think cuts are too deep (only 10% say too shallow) but I dont hold out any hope for fiscal easing tomorrow: http://t.co/I2LKE7TH

  11. George Hallam

    This is fairly accurate as far as it goes. The Labour Party is doing very poorly in the circumstances. However, this is not because the Government is well thought of. Kellner has missed a key poll question:
    “Is coalition government is managing the economy well or badly?”

    Back in November 2010 opinion was evenly divided between “Well” and “Badly” at about 43 percent each. “Don’t Knows” were 13 percent.
    By the New Year a gap had opened up with “Well” failing to 38
    and “Badly” rising to 49 percent.

    Since then those saying “Well” have dwindled to 33 percent. Meanwhile, the “Badly” brigade has increase to 57 percent.
    People seen quite definite about this, only 10 percent answered “Don’t Know”.

    The real lesson is that there is a considerable degree of disaffection with the whole political establishment.
    Watch out for squalls.

  12. Carl Hunter

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  13. Cllr Mark Ashberry

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  14. Simon B

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  15. Brent Stojanovic

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  16. Rachel Megan Barker

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  17. Mark C

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  18. ● ΛЈ ƉΘBSΘN ●

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  19. Stanley Kasirowore

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  20. "We're all in this together" - when 'we' means the bottom 80% | Left Foot Forward

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  21. Kathryn Hyde

    “When asked if the government is good or bad for ‘people like you’ more than half, 51 per cent, say no while less than a quarter – 23 per cent – say yes.”

    Answering either yes or no to that question is pretty dumb…

  22. Mmm not sure

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/9hTBDSs2

  23. Matthew Wilson Eames

    Debt as % of GDP was lower in 08 than 97. This is not "wasteful spending" debt, this is "global financial crisis" debt. http://t.co/8tF3UgfT

  24. Foxy52

    Following Sharon Hodgson's Q, How the Tories became the nasty party again in the public's mind : http://t.co/8tF3UgfT #pmqs

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