The abortion debate: Where do Salmond and the SNP stand?

Scotland’s health secretary has hinted an independent Scotland should consider reducing the time limit in which women are allowed to have an abortion.


Scotland’s health secretary has hinted an independent Scotland should consider reducing the time limit in which women are allowed to have an abortion.

Speaking just a day after UK health secretary, Jeremy Hunt, used an interview with The Times to outline his personal belief the abortion limit should be reduced from 24 to 12 weeks, his Scottish counterpart, Alex Neil, has given an indication he would also prefer a reduction in the limit – though not necessarily to 12 weeks.

Speaking to Scotland on Sunday, Neil explained:

“I do think there is a case to be had for a reduction from 24 weeks, but I don’t know if 12 weeks is realistic, frankly. But I do think there is now a case, given the state of medical science and the fact that babies do survive from an much earlier stage in the pregnancy.

“I do think there is a case for looking to bring down the number of weeks, but that is a personal opinion.”

Arguing the limit needed to be based on medical and scientific evidence, Neil went on to explain:

“I actually think the limit is something we need to look at, but I don’t think you can pick a number of weeks out of the air. That is something you would want to take evidence on and find out what the consensus is. I don’t think it is for politicians to pick an arbitrary number of weeks out of the air.

“There has to be evidence on the right way to go.”

According to official statistics (pdf), the past three years has seen a fall in the number and rate of abortions in Scotland with 12,471 in 2011 compared to 13,903 in 2008, with a reduction of 22% in those aged under 20. This group, however, remains the one with the highest number of abortions with 18.8 per 1000 aged 16-19.

The figures also show:

• In 2011, the rate of abortions continued to show a clear link with the level of deprivation – in areas of high deprivation the rate is 16.0 per 1000 compared to 8.5 per 1000 for the least deprived areas of Scotland;

• 29% of the 12,471 women having a termination in 2011 had had a previous termination.

The cabinet minister’s remarks come after Alex Salmond as far back as 2007 argued he would support the establishment of a commission to look at abortion, arguing in the process he felt the abortion limit should be reduced from 24 to 20 weeks.

In Wales, meanwhile, health minister Lesley Griffiths has sharply criticised Hunt’s remarks, declaring they are not in “the best interests of woman in Wales”.

She explained:

“I’ve read Jeremy Hunt’s remarks about reducing the time limit and this is something that I cannot countenance as being in the best interests of woman in Wales.

“Should the UK government make any formal proposals to change the law, I will be strongly opposing such a move.”

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4 Responses to “The abortion debate: Where do Salmond and the SNP stand?”

  1. Mrs. ES

    If he thinks that then he is a moron that has never been in that situation!!!

  2. Lochaber

    Have you seen Alex Neil’s statement (which seems to answer your question)?

    “There is no Government or party policy on the issue of abortion –
    either now or in an independent Scotland – because it always has been,
    and always will be, a
    matter for the conscience of individual parliamentarians.Therefore, by definition, there are no Government proposals to reduce the current 24-week time limit”.

    Scottish Daily Record, 8th October 2012.

  3. John Ruddy

    Strange how the people who criticise the Tory Secretary of State for Health in England for his personal remarks, are the same ones who defend the SNP Secretary of State for Health in Scotland for making the same sort of personal remarks.

  4. Lochaber

    The remarks of the Secretary of State for Health and the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Well-being have a completely different constitutional force, Abortion legislation in Scotland is reserved to the United Kingdom parliament and it is the Secretary of State for Health who is the responsible minister; see “Responsibility for reserved powers in Scotland”, Standard Note:SN/PC/06322 10 May 2012, House of Commons library.

    No member of the Scottish Parliament, unless they have a dual mandate, has a vote (or the right to propose legislation) on the issue. This would, ofcourse, be changed under either the Devo-max or independence proposals.

    The subject of abortion law is highly divisive and no political party seeks to take a parliamentary position rather leaving this as a matter for the individual conciences of their members of parliament. It is an issue which makes queer bedfellows of us all; consider the extract from John Redwood’s website:

    “Just when it is very important Ministers look in control of
    government, a Senior Minister calls for the arbortion age to be lowered
    from 24 weeks to 12 weeks. This is followed by two other Cabinet
    Ministers saying they personally want it lowered to 20 weeks. Meanwhile
    Downing Street puts out that it will stay at 24 weeks. …. I
    doubt there is a majority in the current Parliament to reduce the limit
    to 20 weeks, and I am sure there is no chance of Parliament lowering it
    to 12 weeks.”

    I completely agree with John Redwood. (Now there’s a sentence I never thought I’d write 🙂

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