Another day, another round of No2AV 'AV/BNP' spin; Left Foot Forward will explain why it isn't the case that AV helps the BNP or makes mainstream politicians appeal to them more.
Another day, another round of No2AV ‘AV/BNP’ spin. So once again, Left Foot Forward will explain why it isn’t the case that AV helps the BNP or makes mainstream politicians appeal to them more. Their latest claim is that the BNP “could get to decide our elections”, that “35 seats could be in the gift of extremists” under the alternative vote system.
Last month on this blog, Sunder Katwala comprehensively demolished the premise that extermists would fare better under AV, explaining:
“BNP votes could decide results under AV only if several extremely unlikely conditions were met.
“They would need to have more votes than the winning margin (which is very rare); their voters would need to express a mainstream second preference (which is unlikely in most cases), and even where they do, those preferences would need to break very unevenly for one major candidate over another to have the potential to be decisive (and there is no evidence that they would do so).
“The electoral geography of BNP support – strongest in heartland Labour seats – makes their ability to affect results even less plausible.
“Pandering to BNP votes would prove a self-defeating strategy under AV. The winning candidate needs to seek 50% of the vote – since the BNP have under 2% of the vote and 80% of voters very strongly disapprove of them, any association with them is going to be toxic.
“There is simply no hard evidence that BNP voters would be more likely to play a decisive role under AV than under the current system, where extremist voters could already decide to vote for one of the likely winning candidates over another.”
The No2AV briefing (pdf) also states:
“Not only does AV give extremists direct influence, but it also creates an incentive for other parties to appeal to extremist voters’ second preferences through ‘dog whistle’ tactics.”
Again, as Sunder explained, such a strategy wouldn’t really make sense – and in any case, as Will Straw pointed out on Left Foot Forward on Wednesday, there are examples of mainstream candidates pandering to extremists under the current system – among them No2AV cheerleader and Tory peer Baroness Warsi, who in 2005, sent out this disgraceful leaflet:
Which appealed to BNP voters with the tagline:
“If you vote BNP you are allowing Labour to CREEP IN with more political correctness and uncotrolled immigration and asylum.”
Labour politicians have also pandered to BNP voters under first past the post, most notably Phil Woolas, whose toxic, dog whistle campaign against a Liberal Democrat candidate saw him thrown out of parliament, having written:
“Extremists are trying to hijack this election. They want you to vote Lib Dem to punish Phil for being strong on immigration. The Lib Dems plan to give hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants the right to stay. It is up to you. Do you want the extremists to win?”
Under AV, it will be next to impossible for a BNP candidate to get over 50 per cent of the vote and win – yet under the current system, not only are BNP voters being appealed to anyway, but there is a greater (though still tiny) chance of one getting in, were the anti-BNP vote to split many ways; and as has been widely reported, Nick Griffin, the leader of the BNP, is against AV and will be voting no in the referendum.
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43 Responses to “Debunked: The latest No2AV ‘AV/BNP’ spin”
John Symons
RT @leftfootfwd: Debunked: The latest #No2AV 'AV/BNP' spin: http://bit.ly/fqTDVx by @ShamikDas #Yes2V @YesInMay
Kirsty
RT @leftfootfwd: Debunked: The latest #No2AV 'AV/BNP' spin: http://bit.ly/fqTDVx by @ShamikDas #Yes2V @YesInMay
Robster
The SPIN is from you. Voting yes2av is the most stupid thing anyone can do, perhaps you should name yourself leftfootbackwards and the end of progressive politics. Far from offering any FACTS, your debunking is what stand up as modern journalism, i.e opinion! Nothing else. Yu should be more concerned not that the BNP is against it but the Lib Dems are for it, why do you think that is? Because they believe in democracy? or a fairer society?..LMAO The yes2av gang have produced NO credible facts, NO credible evidence and NO reason to vote for it and before you cry about the no campaign they don’t HAVE TO. Your the idiots who want to change it, your the fools who are about to give away what little democracy we have left, what for, so that like Australia, the great home of AV and democracy all the deals get done behind closed doors BEFORE the election and you have less choice than ever. What is wrong with you? did you have your sweets stolen and then you stamp your foot when you don’t win? If you ideologically stupid idiots get AV through it will be the end of Labour, an chance of progressive politics and and what little democracy we have. Your so bloody arrogant that your prepared to throw away all those in history who suffered and died for what little democracy we have, what for? so you can send out leaflets with pictures of celebrities on them because you have no real arguments? Stupid, stupid people.
Jessica Asato
#No2AV's BNP myths debunked by @leftfootfwd: http://bit.ly/hSAzZ4 #labouryes
Trakgalvis
RT @leftfootfwd: Debunked: The latest #No2AV 'AV/BNP' spin: http://bit.ly/fqTDVx by @ShamikDas #Yes2V @YesInMay