Labour members and public disagree on election defeat

Labour members and public disagree on Labour's election defeat. While the recession is common to both, the public put immigration & Gordon Brown ahead of other factors.

Earlier this week, the Demos think tank examined the views of voters that Labour lost in the 2010 election. A new poll by YouGov for Left Foot Forward shows that Labour members and members of affiliated trade unions have a different assessment to the reason for defeat to the general public.

The YouGov poll shows that, from a limited list of ten statements, Labour party members and the general public have different interpretations of the election defeat. Labour party members and members of affiliated trade unions, who share much in common as they do on policy, list the top three reasons for Labour’s defeat as:

• The economic recession destroyed Labour’s reputation for economic competence;

• Labour ministers became out of touch with ordinary voters; and

• Labour failed to do enough to help its natural working-class supporters.

But while the general public also put the economic recession in their top three, they consider “Labour was too soft on immigration” to be the main factor and “Gordon Brown was a poor Prime Minister” to be the third main reason. Labour being “out of touch” came 4th but not helping its “natural working-class supporters” came a distant joint 6th.

The chart below shows the net support levels* for all ten statements from Labour members, members of affiliated trade unions, and the general public.

While the main reasons cited for Labour’s defeat differ between the voters of each political party, there are some striking similarities too. Labour being too soft on immigration was the number 1 issue for Tory voters, number 2 issue for Labour voters, and number 3 issue for Lib Dem voters reflecting a worrying finding for the Labour party and its activists. The issue was 6th on the list for Labour members and 5th for trade union members.

In terms of the raw numbers agreeing with each of the statements, Labour party and trade union members have most in common with the general public in agreeing that “Labour was far too subservient to the United States over Iraq and Afghanistan” and that “Labour ministers became out of touch with ordinary voters”. Among each group, between two-thirds and three-quarters agree with the statement.

As the debate around Coalition cuts continues, Labour activists will be pleased by the finding that although 59 per cent of the general public agree with the statement that “Most of the extra spending on the public services under Labour was wasted”, under one-in-three voters saw this as one of the main reasons that Labour lost.

* The difference between the percentages of those approving and disapproving

Download the full results here.

UPDATE 14.04

Anthony Wells of YouGov has his own fascinating analysis of these data on his UK Polling Report blog. His conclusion is particularly interesting:

“we shouldn’t go away from this polling thinking that it says a harsher immigration policy is the necessarily the answer. Firstly, people are not always good judges of what drives public opinion or sometimes even their own decisions, so just because immigration was seen as a main driver of Labour’s defeat, it doesn’t mean it necessarily was. Secondly, it may not make good strategic sense for Labour to change their stance on immigration anyway – while it could please their traditional working class supporters, the Labour party is a broad church and also contains middle-class intelligentsia who would be repelled by an anti-immigration policy.”

37 Responses to “Labour members and public disagree on election defeat”

  1. Anon E Mouse

    Billy Blofeld – I have to say that if there has been a bigger critic of the Labour Party than me on this blog I haven’t read their posts.

    Did you use bad language or were abusive to anyone?

  2. Billy Blofeld

    @Shamik,

    You are correct – I meant to write that I wrote comments on “Labour List” blog which were moderated.

    I much prefer Left Foot Forwards all round – including your liberal attitude towards moderation.

    Since you let me post unhindered – I try to respect that – and don’t subject you to my potty mouth.

  3. Liz McShane

    Anon – I don’t think anyone could compete with you – you are in a league of your own when it comes to criticising Labour – I am not sure whether that’s a compliment or not…!

    It seems that Billy’s comments weren’t with held or censored as you can see from Shamik’s post above.

  4. Anon E Mouse

    Will – Before you get too complacent regarding the reasons Labour lost the activists need to think for a second.

    59% say “Most of the extra spending on the public services under Labour was wasted”…

    Now give it five years of cuts and those very same people will blame Labour BIG TIME when their services start to suffer (if they do).

    Presently the ramifications of Labour’s waste have yet to be felt but Cameron and Clegg will make sure we know who’s fault it is. Those who agree will say “Told you so” and those who disagree will say “You were right”.

    The graph backs up what I’ve been saying on this blog for months and left wing activists such as Ben Fox, David Taylor and those slavish Labour zombie types really need to study your graph Will and rethink their approach ASAP.

    They are still fighting the last election and unless their attitude changes they will continue to look as delusional and out of touch in public forums as they currently do. They call it group think.

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