New skills eco-system puts clear water between Labour and the tories

A new ‘skills eco system’ now puts clear water between Labour and the Tories policy of ‘pile ‘em high and sell ‘em cheap’ low grade apprenticeships.

The call for a new apprenticeship and training system for the UK by unions seems to be getting through to Labour as it begins to flesh out new policies that will lead us into the 2015 election.

At last weeks EEF Manufacturing Conference, Ed Balls and Chuka Umunna did their double act in front of a packed main hall of manufacturing employers at London’s QE2 Centre in Westminster.

Umunna, sitting in a easy chair on the stage hit out at employers for not taking on enough skilled apprentices – and the government for its muddled and multitude of schemes that are not delivering.

The fact that two-thirds of the UK’s largest employers do not provide high quality apprenticeships was labelled a “disgrace” by the shadow business secretary.

This was in response to a question I posed at the conference on the need for a review of the UK’s skills base, the apprenticeship system and the need to combat forthcoming skills shortages in engineering and the science based industries.

Umunna described skilled apprenticeships as being at “the heart of the economic debate”. He blamed cultural issues as to why apprenticeship schemes aren’t “afforded a parity of esteem” with academic qualifications.

“There’s a lot of talk about us being in a global race, but the question is how do you make the British Lion roar in that race – having a proper ‘skills eco-system’ is fundamental to that,” said Umunna.

“There are cultural issues though. If I was to ask everyone in this room who has a teenager to raise their hand over whether they’d like to go to university or do an apprenticeship, I think we’d know what the answer would be.”

“We have to change the way we think about what our young people are going on to do. If your child is going on to do an apprenticeship, it’s as important and as noble as them going on to them going to university. This is why Labour has said give us a greater control over the skills budget and if we are elected we will introduce a new technical baccalaureate of gold standard in technical and engineering and vocational qualifications.”

Unite and the TUC have been calling for an overhaul the UK’s skills and training system – with a preference of the German styled ‘dual vocational system’ which provides for skilled apprenticeships lasting at least three years with on the job and off the job training, preparing young people for employment possibilities in manufacturing and science based industries – rather than being channelled into academia.

Unite, the TUC (and many employers) are also demanding the return of a nationally based schools career service, where young people can get proper advice and counseling on future jobs in manufacturing and science rather than the ‘bums on seats’ approach to further education or university.

There also needs to be a more streamlined approach to help SME’s to take on apprentices. We need to look at new models, including the Technical Apprenticeship Service being pioneers by the sector skills council for the Chemicals and Process Sector (COGENT).

A new ‘skills eco system’ now puts clear water between Labour and the Tories policy of ‘pile ‘em high and sell ‘em cheap’ low grade apprenticeships.

March 11th – 15th is UK National Apprenticeship Week.

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88 Responses to “New skills eco-system puts clear water between Labour and the tories”

  1. Newsbot9

    Funnily enough, the police didn’t break the law there. Keep calling for thuggery against the left.

  2. Mick

    And poor little Newsbot claims I say the opposite to what I do when he’s stumped. Noted.

    And his crap continues…..

  3. Mick

    Justice against left wing thugs. There’s no law against talking crap, just acting on it.

  4. Newsbot9

    Yes, you keep claiming you’ve hit me with a stump with your crap on or whatever amazing idiocy you’ve come up with today to self-justify your trolling.

  5. Newsbot9

    Yes, you keep trying to break heads. Alfie Meadows got acquitted, sadly for your thugs. Britain’s too just for you, when are you moving to a country better suited to your views…Russia, perhaps.

  6. Mick

    And Nick Griffin got acquitted, sadly for YOUR thugs. I’ve got none of my own. And the police have enough to contend with, facing mayhem from all sides.

    Then they get the blame for ‘kettling’ to keep things contained. And poor little Newsbot backs the THUGS, tearing to ribbons his ‘peaceful’ credentials!

  7. Newsbot9

    Griffin’s been found guilty several times in court. And of course you’d claim that. And yes, illegal kettling of families with Kids is wrong, oddly enough.

    Keep claiming I’m backing your thugs. You haven’t found a single mutualist with as much as a caution.

  8. Mick

    Nick Griffin walked each time due to a suspended sentence, acquittal and not guilty verdicts. And any parents who are willing to bring their kids to a riot situation would be guilty of at least child endangerment.

    To experience a simulation of scum control for yourself, research by Googling WEB GAME LETS YOU KETTLE RIOTING STUDENTS.

    And as I don’t mix with mutualists, I’d hardly be party to their anarchic secrets. But I do credit them with the brains to want to change the law before committing crimes, such as making people impoverished by bringing in sky high taxes, etc.

    Why use a boot when the law will do, as mutualist dogma suggested.

  9. Newsbot9

    Except he was convicted. You’re not doing well here.

    Yes, you keep calling peaceful demonstrations “riots”. You’re simply trying to suppress the right to protest. And of course you have propagit for that end.

    And of course you don’t mix with the 99%, so that’s a given!

    And I don’t know, why are you using boots?

  10. Mick

    I only use my boots to keep my feet warm. Anarchists may have other ideas. Which is why I call a riot a riot.

    And Nick Grffin may heve been convicted in 1998 but he still walked. And your boy didn’t go down either. But I’d prefer if NOBODY got involved in trouble.

    Mutualists are the 99%? Nobody’s really aware of the mutualists but everybody knows Labour. If it wasn’t for Labour, nobody mutual would get anywhere near a lever of power.

  11. Newsbot9

    Yes, yes, as you’ve said you hire boots. And you keep calling peaceful demonstrations riots. And right, you want to legalise your suppression.

    And you keep staying “my boy”, when you haven’t identified a mutualist even cautioned yet. And of course you have no idea about the 99%.

    Keep ignoring John Lewis and the Co-Op’s!

  12. Mick

    And now poor little Newsbot runs on empty. Newsbots going around in circles now, so all he comes out with his cobblers.

  13. Newsbot9

    That’s right, keep hating on workers. Keep trying to pass your little empty arguments and circular thoughts off onto me.

  14. TomSparc

    You seem like a very lonely and angry person the way you stalk, troll and abuse people around the internet. You should probably seek help.

  15. Mick

    Well answered all that earlier, with links, and all you did was troll yourself.

    It’s all there in all the previous links – mutuals, Labour, ‘the 199%, the lot. If you wanna ask it all again, go ahead. I’ll just tell you to read it all again, that’s all.

    And now, Newsbot’s closing BS, I mean reply………

  16. Mick

    ….Er, the 199%? Unless I mean 99%, or Newsbot being 199% neurotic!

  17. Newsbot9

    That’s right, you’re a good far right social darwinst who can’t make his “arguments” without virulent attacks on everyone’s mental health and calling for “treatment” for them!

    Keep on hugging your gas shares!

  18. Newsbot9

    Of course you want to close off reply. Keep on being so scared of contradiction.

    Keep claiming because you link it it’s true, your shill sites are shill sites. Of courde you’ll try and force your shill sites down people’s throat.

    Back in reality, anarchism is not socialism. Your lack of knowledge tripped you up.

  19. TomSparc

    Stop whining and start trying to produce some coherent arguments based on science and fact.

  20. TomSparc

    I just skimmed your comment history. You really need to talk to your doctor or just go outside occasionally and interact with people.

  21. Mick

    And there it is, Newsbot’s crackers.

    The back issues and links are all there to read and all gloriously unrefuted by Newsbot’s own.

  22. TomSparc

    You don’t need that – you already have your own little empty arguments and circular thoughts.

  23. Newsbot9

    That’s right, in your world anyone who dares uses facts is mentally ill. Anyone who dares not believe a clear shill is not like Mick!

    Oh, right, you mean they’re normal.

  24. Newsbot9

    Yes, thanks for coming here just to shill and show up your far right, gas-energy, hatred.

  25. Newsbot9

    That’s right, you’re here to troll and make the same old far right, social darwinist mental illness comments against anyone not far right, gas-man.

  26. Newsbot9

    I have. You’ve stood around chanting “I love gas” as a response. Your coming here just to shill against me just shows your bitterness and hatred.

  27. TomSparc

    Clean, sustainable renewable energy keeps growing exponentially as costs fall no matter how much nuke-fossil trolls like you tell your lies.

  28. TomSparc

    Stop whining and try to make an intelligent comment.

  29. Newsbot9

    That’s right, you keep claiming that gas prices are falling, and that the incidental wind is cheap. Shame the facts disprove your contention – but you have profits to make, screw the poor!

    Your use of “exponentially” shows your grasp of numbers.

  30. TomSparc

    IEA sees renewable energy growth accelerating over next 5 years.

  31. Newsbot9

    Of course it does, big gas investors like you need incidentals to justify your building turbines. You’re here to troll in unrelated topics like the far right wing troll you are, again.

  32. TomSparc

    IEA Global Electricity Statistics, August 2011: nuclear down 10%, combustible fuels down 3%, renewables up 24%.

    You lose again liar.

  33. Newsbot9

    I did, you’re calling it whining because you’re a troll. Thanks for that, gas-man!

  34. TomSparc

    Why do you shill for fossil fuels? It’s not working.

    Renewable Energies in Germany – A success story. Renewable energies are of threefold importance to Germany’s economy. They offer climate protection, give incentives for growth as well as job creation and provide increasing independence from energy imports.

  35. TomSparc

    Whine all you want. It won’t change reality.

    IEA: Renewable energy technology is becoming increasingly cost competitive and growth rates are in line to meet levels required of a sustainable energy future.

  36. Newsbot9

    2011? Thanks for being behind the times. Keep claiming cherry-picking facts makes everyone else the liar, troll, as you continue to spout nonsense in unrelated threads, gas-man.

  37. TomSparc

    Are you ever not stupid?

    Germany’s benchmark for 2013 delivery baseload BY1DE-1Y fell by 10 cents to 47.15 euros/MWh while the French contract BY1FR-1Y firmed by 33 cents to 50.68 euros.

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