What should the society we want to build after the referendum look like? By Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland Margaret Curran.
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Margaret Curran MP (Labour, Glasgow East) is the Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland
The day after Scotland goes to the polls to decide whether to go it alone or to remain a part of the United Kingdom, politicians of all parties will sit down, take stock and decide where to go next. Reflecting on how we want that day to look and the discussions we’d like to be having – regardless of the outcome – can help us establish the debate we should be having now and the questions we should be asking.
For me, thinking about this illuminates two of the central questions we are grappling with in this debate now. Firstly, what choice should face the Scottish people and secondly, what should the society we want to build after the referendum look like?
On the first question, until recently, I thought we knew the answer. Those of us in the Labour Party who fought for and have defended devolution since the very start of our political lives wanted a strong Scottish Parliament inside a modern United Kingdom.
Those in the SNP wanted independence, and to separate Scotland from the rest of the UK. That was, after all, their founding purpose and the cause around which their members and supporters rallied. Now, only weeks into the referendum campaign, it looks like we’re dealing with something wholly different.
Instead of a clear choice between in or out of the UK, the SNP are moving the goalposts. ‘Independence’ for them now means keeping the currency, keeping the Queen, keeping the flag, staying British, asking a foreign country to regulate our banks, set our interest rates.
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As if there wasn’t enough confusion already, we’re now told that Alex Salmond wants a third option on the ballot paper – “devo-max”, a brand without any details.
The second issue we should reflect on – the kind of society we want to build in Scotland – should be the one we keep our minds focussed on as we progress through this campaign. We’re not having a debate about the future of our nation for the sake of it, we’re having a debate because at stake are two competing futures for Scotland’s existence.
For me and my colleagues in the Labour Party, our belief in the United Kingdom isn’t borne out of nostalgia. I know that Scotland has always needed a strong voice in the UK. That’s why the Labour Party backed devolution and legislated for it days after coming into office in 1997. That’s why we introduced devolution. And that’s why we have carried on developing devolution and passed more powers and responsibility to the Scottish parliament, to get the balance right across the UK as a whole.
We have always had a vision for a strong, prosperous Scotland sitting inside a United Kingdom where we pool sovereignty with three other nations to protect our shared interests. It is a state of affairs that has become more, not less, relevant in an interconnected and interdependent world.
For the SNP however, the kind of society they want to build is unclear. As my recent Parliamentary Questions revealed, SNP ministers in Edinburgh haven’t had a single conversation with their counterparts in London about the consequences of independence. On issues as important to people as the economy, their jobs, their benefits or the nation’s security, not a single letter or email has passed between Scottish and UK ministers.
For a party that has waited generations to be in a position to deliver on its founding principle, the only conclusion I can draw from this is that the SNP no longer believe they can convince the Scottish people of independence. They have simply given up.
The first minister says it’s the only thing he’s campaigning for, but from his desperation for a third option, however woolly, to his lack of interest in opening up a discussion with the UK government on what happens the day after independence, I can only conclude he’s bottled it.
58 Responses to “Salmond must stop moving the goalposts on Scottish independence referendum”
Anonymous
The UK has currently circa £821 billion of assets.
Scotland would be entitled to 8.4% (a population share or % GDP share both are circa ~8.4%) of the value of all the assets of the UK and would then take the same % of UK debt.
If we do not get our share of assets we do not take our share of debts.
There is already an international precedent with the former Czechoslovakia in 1993, when state assets were shared out according to the population share of the newly formed nations.
Scotland would be entitled to a £69bn share of assets or cash equivalent in order to take our share of UK debts.
The other option is the precedent set by Russia where they proposed to be the sole sucessor state to the USSR.
Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine etc were not sucessor states and the clean slate principle applied and they took no external debts of assets of the USSR.
In that instance Russia took all tranferable assets of the USSR but also took all of the debt.
Take your choice…
Anonymous
You are, once again, confusing a share of assets for a share of everything.
There would of course be give and take, with certain assets not up for negotiation on other side (especially in the armed forces, but also embassies, etc.)
Fatmaria
Great reply. Really…great.
I’ve no idea what it means but I bet its great.
Anonymous
Yea, there’s a term for that. “Useful idiot”.
Fatmaria
What happened to you?