A green perspective on Ed Miliband

Ed Miliband spoke in Norwich last night. Local Green party councillor Rupert Read attended and was impressed by the performance.

Regular Left Foot Forward contributor, and Green party councillor, Rupert Read writes from the Ed Miliband roadshow:

On hearing that Ed Miliband would be speaking at an ‘Ed Miliband for Labour Leader’ event yesterday, on the edge of my ward and less than a mile from where I live, I asked his office if I could come along and write something about it for Left Foot Forward. To their credit, they agreed.

When I arrived, my right to come in was queried by a local Labour candidate who presumed that Ed Miliband’s team were unaware that I was a local Green Party politician. A phonecall went through to his campaign HQ; they confirmed that they were happy for me to be able to attend. A little bit of pluralism in action, which impressed me; I wonder if Balls’ or Burnham’s teams would have been so willing.

When Ed Miliband arrived, he spoke for a good while fluently without notes, and then took swathes of questions from the crowd (mostly Labour activists, members and Councillors).

He was plainly making a play to be recognised as ‘the change candidate’, by implicit contrast with his brother. (One audience-member asked him pointedly if his sole case for being picked by the membership was that he wasn’t a Blairite). He said that “The question at this [Labour leadership] election is who is willing to confront what went wrong under the last government”, and then listed various such items, including:

• the 10p tax rate abolition;

• the failure until near the end of the Labour government’s tenure to support council house building and stock-retention in any way (One of the biggest supportive noises of the evening from the audience was when he said that things would have been much better if John Healey had been made Housing Minister in 1997);

• the lack of any serious industrial policy until late on in the government; and

• a poor record on civil liberties.

He expressed support for Ken Clarke against Michael Howard on the question of whether ‘prison works’ or not, and demurred from the view of some in Labour that it was possible or wise to out-Right the Right on issues such as crime and terrorism. He didn’t want Labour to attack Clarke or Theresa May as ‘soft on crime’.

On immigration, he said that “It’s a class issue”. In other words that in most cases it isn’t racism but worries about the driving down of wages etc., that motivates working-class concern about immigration. He backed a Living Wage though, disappointingly, he seemed unprepared to legislate for it, preferring to leave it to local initiatives and to ‘demonstration effects’ and ‘leadership effects’ from bringing it in in public services. It’s true that since Greens introduced the idea of a Living Wage, most progress on it has been made by local Councils – but if government were to underwrite it, it would of course be far more effective.

As a philosopher, I appreciated his quip that “You don’t have to make your economy nasty, brutish, and short”; and as a Green, I appreciated his remark that “Anthropogenic climate change is the biggest issue that we face.”

Since I was attending as a citizen-journalist, and a member of another political Party to boot, I didn’t want to try to take up any of Ed Miliband’s time, as the meeting ended and local Labour members got their photos taken with him. But then I heard him saying to his aide, “Where’s the Green guy; I must touch base with him before we move on”. So I went up and introduced myself, and was able to ask him the question that I have been trying to get an answer to from him (or from his brother) for the last few years:

“You are widely thought to be the ‘greenest’ of the Labour leadership candidates. In government, you often spoke proudly of Labour’s record on the issue of manmade climate change. But isn’t it a fact, once one counts carbon emissions in a scientifically-respectable way (incorporating embodied energy/emissions, and sea and air travel), that Britain’s emissions rose significantly from 1997 to 2010? Shouldn’t that – the failure of the Labour government to rein in Britain’s carbon emissions – be your starting point, in debating CO2 emissions, climate change, and the green agenda?”

His answer on the point about the non-inclusion of air and sea transport in the government’s figures disappointed me. He didn’t accept my point on the statistics, which are detailed in the sources that I gave in my recent piece over on Liberal Conspiracy about this.

His answer on embodied emissions was more interesting, and not unconvincing. He argued that it doesn’t make sense to count responsibility for emissions where power over them doesn’t lie. In other words, he held that emissions need to be counted where they originate, in the countries that can potentially control them. (Of course, one could counter that it would still be perfectly possible to exercise significant control over them, if our country were willing, as I believe it should be, to control products’ entry into our borders partly on the basis of their emissions footprint.)

As I left the event, I was left with the impression that Ed Miliband, for all that I am not particularly impressed with his actual record in government (as opposed to some of his ideas for the future), and for all that I still disagree with him about numerous important things (for example, Carbon Capture and Storage), is the Labour leadership candidate most likely (with the possible exception of Diane Abbott) to help take the political agenda in this country in the direction in which it most needs to go.

38 Responses to “A green perspective on Ed Miliband”

  1. Liz McShane

    Anon – if you are referring to last week’s QT then I think you mean Sadiq Khan MP – Shadow Transport Secretary. Shahid Malik lost his seat in May.

    I presume the fact that Margaret Thatcher’s Government spent lots on public services eg Education was the reason that there were still primary schools in 1997 that had outside toilets.

    Diane Abbot has certainly added interest to the debate but I think if you attend a hustings you might have slightly different views as to the other candidates and who is the warmest/most human etc.

  2. Anon E Mouse

    Liz – Thanks for the correction on Sadiq Khan.

    This coalition is going to impose MASSIVE cuts. Thatcher, increased public spending. You miss the point I’m making. I’m illustrating why politicians and the commentators need to be honest not keep repeating something that isn’t true.

    Those school toilets were a legacy from the age of the schools and in need of repair but equally no one was dying from MRSA because of dirty hospitals – there are pro’s and con’s to all sides.

    Remember if you will which government built more comprehensive schools than any other – bit hint Liz it wasn’t a Labour one.

    And I’m sure for example you wouldn’t think it acceptable to kill civilians by our armed forces in Iraq. That wasn’t Thatcher Liz.

    The point I make is that once people behave honestly then we will be able to make an informed choice of which party to support and the official opposition to the government of the day can be a political party and not the national media.

    (That’s going to be hard since there aren’t any Labour supporting newspapers left – I don’t count the Mirror, it’s a joke – so it is an uphill battle)

    Finally people don’t care about politics which is why they won’t be at the hustings to find out. When I met Neil Kinnock he came across as warm and friendly but on TV was a disaster…

  3. Liz McShane

    Anon – personally I was against the Iraq War and I think with the passing of time more Labour MPs will reflect and possibly have a different view to this.

    Re Thatcher – I wouldn’t hold her up as a benchmark for anything. What about The Belgrano? I think she was very bellicose.

  4. Anon E Mouse

    Liz – I remember this as clearly as if it was yesterday…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLN7rIby9s

    —–ALERT ALERT ALERT—–

    Warning to Shamik Das, Joss Garman, Rupert Read, David Taylor, Ben Fox, Mr.Sensible, mike, Fat Bloke on Tour and Kevin Meagher in advance that the link contains something alien to you people – democracy in action at a Labour Party conference.

    People with opinions that differ from yours where they are not being smeared by you instead of rigorous and robust challenge.

    Contrast that with the New Labour controlled events where a single OAP and lifelong Labour member is arrested under the Terrorism Act for heckling the Home Secretary.

    Come back real the real Labour Party I say…

  5. Anon E Mouse

    Liz – I was in the navy on subs with guys that had been on the Conq when the Belgrano was sunk – that’s war I’m afraid. It was a war to free an innocent peace loving community that had been invaded by a fascist dictatorship.

    In Iraq we started the war. In the Falklands the fascists did – there is no comparison and to suggest there is is simply historically inaccurate. (Sorry).

    My point with Thatcher is that some of the stuff they say about her is simply not true. I didn’t vote for her but she could certainly win elections…

    Did you like the link btw?

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