Bedroom Tax has cost low-income families an average of £1,260

Commons vote will be held today to determine the future of the Bedroom Tax.

Commons vote will be held today to determine the future of the Bedroom Tax

The latest government figures show that the coalition’s Bedroom Tax has cost thousands of low-income families an average of £1,260 since it was introduced in April 2013.

Around 500,000 people are currently being charged the Bedroom Tax, paying an average of £14 a week. Incredibly, two-thirds (330,000) of those hit are disabled and 60,000 are carers.

Labour have promised that their next government will repeal the Bedroom Tax. But they stress that the people being affected by it now cannot afford to wait that long, which is why they have forced a vote in the House of Commons.

The vote will take place today, and could mean that the Bedroom Tax is effectively abolished by Christmas.

Rachel Reeves MP, Labour’s Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary said:

 “The Bedroom Tax is costing low-income families over £1,200, deepening the cost-of-living crisis for people who are struggling to make ends meet.

 “The government’s own independent report into the Bedroom Tax found fewer than five per cent of people had moved to another home in the social rented sector and 60 per cent of people had fallen behind with their rent. The Bedroom Tax has failed – it’s yet another example of Tory Welfare Waste.”

Describing the tax as ‘cruel’ and ‘unfair’, Reeves urged MPs from all parties to vote in favour of scrapping the Bedroom Tax today.

47 Responses to “Bedroom Tax has cost low-income families an average of £1,260”

  1. JoeDM

    It is NOT a tax.

    It is the removal of a subsidy that encouraged people to rent houses too large for their actual needs.

  2. Kathryn

    …”two-thirds (330,000) of those hit are disabled and 60,000 are carers.”

    So you think this is ok?

  3. CharleyFarleyFive

    It’s not a tax. How do you expect to be taken seriously when you peddle such tendentious nonsense?

  4. CharleyFarleyFive

    Whether it’s okay or not is irrelevant as to whether it’s a tax or not. I don’t think it is a fair system but describing it as a tax just belittles the debate.

  5. Guest

    Yes, it shows you do indeed belittle it by refusing to accept what it’s been called and move on.

  6. Guest

    I can know you hate the poor by your inability to accept what it’s called and to defend it so rabidly on those grounds.

  7. Guest

    No surprise you love it so much, as you try and fight against it’s name rather than admit it’s effect and that it’s been a miserable economic failure which has hurt the British economy.

  8. CharleyFarleyFive

    Incoherent rubbish, do you have a point?

  9. CharleyFarleyFive

    No, no idea what you’re talking about, can you rephrase it?

  10. Tom

    How do you define a tax?

  11. CharleyFarleyFive

    Why?

  12. Tom

    Because clearly it’s relevant as to whether or not the bedroom tax is, in fact, a tax. If you think it’s not, you must have some definition which excludes it.

  13. Keith M

    What else is it then?

  14. Keith M

    Get real mate.

  15. CharleyFarleyFive

    Crikey you lefties are a bit odd sometimes. Reducing a benefit payment as a result of someone’s circumstances is not a tax.

    Questions of such fatuous idiocy are typical of those that have become used to a culture of entitlement, those for whom money should only be given and not earned.

  16. CharleyFarleyFive

    Really? You really need me to answer that question? If you were receiving for example DLA and your situation improved so you were not so reliant on help and your benefit was reduced that would in your view be a tax?

  17. Guest

    Why are you talking to yourself?

    Keep hating.

  18. Guest

    Ah yes, your PC bigotry comes out to play, as you fight on terminology because you have no other argument.

    Thanks for admitting for the record that you’re a fatuous idiot, as you scream hate at the disabled and demand more punishments for the poor – as you try and smash wages by ending the welfare state.

  19. Guest

    No, I’ll keep using English.

  20. CharleyFarleyFive

    I think that, with the best will in the world, you lack the required grasp on the subjects upon which you pontificate. Also, when you do grasp something, it tends to be the wrong end of the stick.

  21. CharleyFarleyFive

    Apostrophes in the correct place would be a start. You’re confusing your it’s and its.

  22. Tom

    Do you dispute that taxes can be paid out of benefit entitlements? Good luck explaining how no benefit payments are paid in indirect taxes.

    As it stands, this is a retrospective charge applied to tenants, that has nothing to do with the criteria for eligibility. Ergo, a tax.

  23. CharleyFarleyFive

    You can obfuscate all you like but it’s not a tax.

  24. CharleyFarleyFive

    Even the BBC, champion of the left knows it’s not a tax:-

    ‘A change in housing benefit rules, introduced in April 2013, has been dubbed the “bedroom tax” by Labour and, for many, the name has stuck.
    Strictly speaking, though, it is not a tax at all.’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21321113

  25. Tom

    What a cogent argument.

  26. Tom

    A ‘champion of the left’ that routinely gives more airtime to right-wing views?

    http://www.democraticaudit.com/?p=1326

  27. CharleyFarleyFive

    You believe that if you want to, meanwhile, back in the real world…

  28. CharleyFarleyFive

    None required, it’s an axiom.

  29. Tom

    Well, that’s me convinced then.

  30. Tom

    Yeah, where grumpy right-wingers moan about anything they don’t like having a left-wing bias. Why not try producing some actual evidence, or doing your own study?

  31. CharleyFarleyFive

    There’s no point trying to convince you, if you’re going to take the position that the Pope’s not Catholic, what would be the point of arguing otherwise.

    You’re either disingenuous, ignorant or pushing an agenda. I’d argue for all three.

  32. Tom

    So a free-market think tank and some quotes. Give the man a PhD!

  33. treborc1

    It is a spare rook subsidy labour LHA is a tax , now then I Live in a one bedroom Bungalow, it says in my contract it is a one bedroom property for the disabled although you would not think it’s for the disabled it has three steps to get in and it’s normal inside for normal people.

    Now then when I was getting my rent and council tax paid they made a visit to have look at the property, it has a tiny kitchen you can not swing anything in never mind a cat , it has a living room which is tiny one settee only and it had a bedroom bathroom and dinning room, the council stated we can serve food in the living room as most people eat while watching TV and the council said you have a room which is spare and can be used as a bedroom so you have a spare room so you will pay £14 a week extra .

    Both the LHA and the spare room subsidy are in the main to attack the poorest who rent and need council allowance and council tax payments bopth labour and the Tories came up with it and both are as much to blame.

    Labour LHS has decimated those who rent in the private sector those who bought homes and then turned them into rentals.. so it’s bit rich without saying anything about this little gem

  34. treborc1

    Best to use gas on those people quick and not so cheap

  35. Guest

    Yea, I don’t use the stick for beating workers. My bad!

  36. Guest

    Your “real world” – i.e. where your propaganda is real.

  37. Guest

    You can fight the terminology because that’s all you have all you like.

  38. Guest

    Yes, you would argue people are like you.

  39. Guest

    Yea, all you have is nitpicking.

  40. Leon Wolfeson

    Rot. LHA is very clear on bedrooms, it’s not the same definition at all.
    Moreover, there’s no reduction in HB for a living room.

  41. Tom

    Why? The question of nomenclature is immaterial to the real issue, which is that the Government’s actions are profoundly unjust. It does seem to me though, that someone who was pushing an agenda would seek to dismiss all that by quibbling over a phrase.

  42. CharleyFarleyFive

    Of course it’s not immaterial, it’s cynical politicking designed to appeal to those too ignorant to understand or without time to examine the policy.

    It’s difficult to discuss the relative merits or otherwise of the scheme with those who clearly approach it with an agenda by intentionally misrepresenting it.

    It’s not a tax, never has been and if people wish to have a grown up debate about it they should do so without falling for such petty propaganda.

  43. Tom

    I suppose you think the Poll Tax had everyone rioting in sympathy with YouGov?

    If you have any evidence, even anecdotal, that support for the bedroom tax increases when people examine it more fully, then please share.

    Otherwise, you’re just assuming that the only reason people would disagree with you is because they’re ignorant. Might be a classic right-wing view, but it won’t wash here.

  44. CharleyFarleyFive

    I’m not arguing about the merits or otherwise of the policy, I’m pointing out that it’s not a tax.

  45. Tom

    …which is clearly an exercise in obstructionism.

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