Lib Dems must ask themselves: Do they really want to be the people that killed the NHS?

Stuart Jeffery, the Green Party’s health spokesman, explains the party’s opposition to the health and social care bill, and the consequences if it is passed.

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Stuart Jeffery is the Green Party’s health spokesman

Of course the Tories are no stranger to privatisation. The NHS is just the next victim in a long history of privatisation and free market fundamentalism implemented by the Conservative Party that has seen energy, rail, buses and the telephone network handed over to private corporations in the name of “efficiency”.

Save-Our-NHS-rallyAnd remember the Orange Book? No one should be surprised at the Lib Dems’ backing of competition and privatisation either.

There are clear examples showing the dangers of privatisation and how it will affect the health and wellbeing of the country’s citizens, yet the coalition government continues to insist on the necessity of their policy.

No wonder there has been fierce opposition from medical organisations, practitioners, NHS managers, doctors and nurses; the impact of the reforms will be devastating.

Under Labour, privatisation with a healthcare market was a key plank in their strategy for the NHS, something the Greens bitterly opposed, but Labour’s privatisation was more stealthy and less brazen than the bold steps being taken by the coalition.

The coalition is also starting from the position that the NHS is broken, and to some extent they are right. Labour has invested heavily in healthcare marketisation and this needed to be reversed and the lack of local accountability combined with a post code lottery for treatment desperately needed addressing.

The health and social care bill pushes the NHS into a market-led National Health Insurance scheme fundamentally undermining its founding principles. The bill paves the way for wholesale privatisation of provision, and rationing will need to be administered by GPs which will damage the sacrosanct doctor-patient relationship.

The dangers of the bill are known to the government but they refuse to share their own assessment despite the legal ruling demanding they do so. This simply highlights either that the government’s arrogance is sufficient for it to ignore the law, mounting opposition and proof of their mistake, or that they are so blissfully ignorant they are willing to put healthcare in insurmountable danger.

 


See also:

“Stockholm Syndrome” – coalition clings on to a bill that will cause irreparable damage 15 Mar 2012

Clegg still has a chance to save the NHS – and his party 12 Mar 2012

Lib Dems’ NHS bill dilemma: A party that votes against itself is a party in trouble 10 Mar 2012

Lord Owen: If coalition continue to appeal Risk Register, Bill must be paused 9 Mar 2012

Information Tribunal orders Lansley: Publish NHS Risk Register “immediately” 9 Mar 2012


 

As the NHS moves rapidly towards the US system, there was something depressingly poignant about David Cameron being there for Tuesday’s vote. He was of course engaging in cool one-upmanships with Barack Obama in the land where 40 million of its inhabitants cannot afford healthcare.

The NHS is too important to lose and the fight will continue to stop the Tories and Lib Dems wrecking it; voters will not forgive politicians who take away the NHS, it is too big a part of our culture. MPs and Lords should think hard during the final debates on the NHS bill and ask themselves whether they really want to be the people that killed the NHS.

 


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42 Responses to “Lib Dems must ask themselves: Do they really want to be the people that killed the NHS?”

  1. Selohesra

    When all this is finally through parliament which it surely will be soon and the NHS is found not to have been destroyed but functioning well and efficiently all this hyperbole about killing the NHS is going to look a bit silly and perhaps people won’t beleive you next you raise a genuine issue.

  2. Anonymous

    Typical. Asking the wrong question.

    The real question is do you want to be a person killed by the NHS?

    20-80,000 a year helped on their way by the NHS. The NHS’s own figures there.

    What do you expect from an organisation that didn’t spot a doctor killing over 600 – Shipman.

    What do you expect when the don’t prosecute those responsible for killing hundreds in one hospital from MRSA?

  3. BenM_Kent

    20 to 80,000.

    Quite a wide range there.

    One might almost think you’re making that up!

  4. Newsbot9

    And the magical rainbow unicorn will pick flowers and dance in the street!

  5. Newsbot9

    Ah yes, that’s right, far too few of the poor die for your liking.

  6. Andy S

    .@LibDems must ask themselves: Do they really want to be the people that killed the #NHS?

    //t.co/M4rbBMhd

    by @TheGreenParty

  7. Unison Lan Health

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  8. BarnardSteve

    Frm earlier: Lib Dems must ask themselves: Do they really want to be the people that killed the NHS? //t.co/FgDG708E by @TheGreenParty

  9. Stuart Jeffery

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  10. Anonymous

    //www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106074/Deaths-hospital-blunders-soar-60-years-NHS-staff-abandon-quality-care-chase-targets.html

    Official records show that 3,645 died as a result of outbreaks of infections, botched operations and other mistakes in 2007/08. That was up from 2,275 two years before.

    The problem here is under reporting. The reported figure is the lower limit.

    //www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmselect/cmhealth/151/15106.htm

    However, as the NPSA itself acknowledges, there is very significant under-reporting of safety incidents (as is discussed further below). So figures for reported incidents are not a reliable indicator of how many incidents actually take place in the NHS.

    //www.telegraph.co.uk/health/3287571/Nine-out-of-ten-preventable-deaths-in-the-NHS-are-not-reported.html

    Of the estimated 72,000 annual deaths in the NHS, just 3,200 are recorded by the National Patient Safety Agency, MPs were told.
    The Commons Health Select Committee heard evidence from experts in its first evidence session on its investigation into patient safety.
    The NPSA runs a system where all NHS staff can report incidents or near misses so patterns can be spotted and the wider health community warned.

  11. Newsbot9

    3,645 < "20,000-40,000"

    More, you're using an isolated figure. What happens in other countries…. (per capita, per healthcare spend, per hospital admission…).

    Oh, then there's the minor fact you're trying to support massive cuts in the patient care budget and create financial reasons to hide mistreatment…

  12. UNISON GWAS

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  13. Colchester Green Pty

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  15. Kevin Donovan

    Lib Dems must ask themselves: Do they really want to be the people that killed the NHS? //t.co/FgDG708E by @TheGreenParty

  16. Gareth Windsor

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  19. Selohesra

    And you wonder why people comment on your medication?

  20. Derek Wall

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  21. Gus Hoyt

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  22. Gus Hoyt

    One for you @Dannyboy30 //t.co/qM4UehlS

  23. Tim Valentine

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  24. vkellywallace

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  25. Newsbot9

    No, YOU continually try and make out that I’m mentally ill because I’m not singing the praises of Hitler. (As you did in other thread, again). Typical social darwinist.

    And of course you’re all for the eugenics behind these changes.

  26. Selohesra

    Keep on living in your fantasy world 🙂

  27. Dennis

    Lib Dems must ask themselves: Do they really want to be the people that killed the NHS? //t.co/0GB8JiBY via @leftfootfwd RT

  28. Newsbot9

    Keep on pretending you haven’t spouted those views, repeatedly. They’re typical of your feral 1%.

  29. Selohesra

    Why dont you quote or link to any of these alleged Hitler praises? – perhaps because they don’t exist other in the fetid imaginings of your twisted mind. Indeed I have posted comdeming racism & this started when I objected to the left smearing UKIP with BNP views – clue there perhaps that even you ought to spot that I find BNP and their sort repulsive.

  30. Tracy Young

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  31. colin

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  32. Newsbot9

    Because I’m not your link bot. You’ve apologised for Hitler repeatedly. Lying is very typically you.

    And right, the BNP don’t go far enough for you, I understand. The BNP at least don’t try to kill EVERYONE poor.

  33. Selohesra

    You are so so wrong but you are not big enough to admit it – when you lose an argument better to accept it graciously rather than make up stories to smear your opponent. You truly are a sad little man

  34. Newsbot9

    Oh, I’m the one who constantly calls other people insane and so on? No, that’d be you.

    You’re a fantasist as well as a hard right winger I see.

  35. Anonymous

    Tory?

    Still breathing?

    Big mistake.

  36. Selohesra

    Full marks for your persistence – constant lies and smears trying to pretend I am a Nazi – look at your own actions – Dr Goebbels would be proud of you

  37. Anonymous

    I’m Jewish.

    You’re an anti-semite piece of shit.

  38. Selohesra

    If you are Jewish you should know better than to smear people as Nazis – you should be ashamed of yourself

  39. Anonymous

    I didn’t say Nazi, and I didn’t mean Nazi. You are a pathological liar, it seems.

  40. Selohesra

    on earlier thread you did use Nazi along with Eugenics – completely uncalled for and I still await your apology

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  42. Stuart Jeffery

    @alexhern Hi Alex, good to meet you yesterday. Finally remembered the LFF piece: //t.co/XxqdSE0J

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