Comments on: The cynics are ignoring a whole swathe of the public when it comes to Corbyn’s chances

By: Nick Elvidge

Nick Elvidge — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:03:42 +0000

Polls and polling are a technique for prediction and control in a media mediated reality. They are not some sort of science, as such they work in ‘normal’ times but not in times of crisis or system breakdown…but as any (armchair) general knows – ‘break their morale and you win cheaply’

By: Rachel Lever

Rachel Lever — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:26:52 +0000

Canvassing in the street, many say they don’t vote. Of course it lets them off having a conversation but very many insist that they really don’t vote. I respond that this is a historic election and they may be able to look back and say “I was there”. Labour should plug that line.

Your point about the zero carbon targets, yes they are confusing. I believe the earlier target of 2030 is for “net zero” or carbon neutral i.e. where emissions are balanced by savings elsewhere. The later 2050 target is for absolute zero. Both fall a long way short of what is needed and are all about management, not action against fossil fuel giants such as sanctions or divestment or criminal prosecutions for ecocide.

By: Dave Middleton

Dave Middleton — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:19:34 +0000

Reading the other comments here rather supports your view. All of them have already made up their mind. I suspect that they are engaged one way or another. But the truth is most don’t knows and undecideds are not engaged politically. Hence they do not join polling panels on which most polls are based. 2000 is perfectly plausible but they are clearly not representative. In the event many of thos dont knows will make a decision based on what they think is in it for them. Most young people, most workers and most poorer people (the don’t know demographic) have most to gain from Labour. Whether they will actually vote for it is another issue.

By: Patrick Newman

Patrick Newman — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 10:42:13 +0000

To expect Labour to get a majority is to have an unrealistic view of the level of sophistication of a large proportion of the British Public. The mean is somewhere between Labour and the Brexit Party!

By: gabriel pepper

gabriel pepper — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:34:05 +0000

Only a revolution wil work. Can Labour get the undecideds? That depends on the Labour activist army kicking arse. It didn’t seem possible in 2017, can it still b done? With 21 days 2 go, & with the Tories getting really arrogant, the boil must b lanced.

By: clive Baulch

clive Baulch — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:22:46 +0000

Well, I think that Labour just lost the Youth Vote. The stuff about Climate Change, especially the Zero carbon solutions not being brought in until the mid to late 2030’s will not play well with the younger generation.

By: Graham G Proctor

Graham G Proctor — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:18:22 +0000

Started off well, got to the academics from Oxford and Manchester and that was the end. The rest is pure summation and uses the work of the previously mentioned academics as some sort of proof that what followed was fact.
Maybe should stick to filums.

By: Kate H

Kate H — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:38:10 +0000

Clutching at strawmen.