Comments on: We must step back from Brexit before we cause irreparable damage https://leftfootforward.org/2019/09/we-must-step-back-from-brexit-before-we-cause-irreparable-damage/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Gary https://leftfootforward.org/2019/09/we-must-step-back-from-brexit-before-we-cause-irreparable-damage/#comment-981281 Tue, 17 Sep 2019 20:19:31 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=138464#comment-981281 I think that many, including the author, live in a political bubble disconnected from 90% of the public. When you write “Such is the level of anger and division ” I think you refer to parliament and the online ‘anger’ that you’ll see both here and on sites like Guido Fawkes. From the extreme ends of the argument there is indeed anger. But these represent the minority of the public, the 10%.

When I step out of my front door literally the ONLY thing I EVER hear about Brexit is, ‘when will it all end, I’m sick of it all’ Those who voted ‘Remain’ have accepted the outcome and those who voted ‘Leave’ have moved on. What unites them is that they fully expect the result to be implemented without further reference to them and without the inordinate delays that many are advocating.

There is no indication that there has been a massive upsurge against Brexit so a second referendum would produce the same result. And what then? I’m assuming that the reason for holding a second one is that they think it’ll go the other way, what when it doesn’t?

It DOES seem very much like politicians telling the people they got it wrong and to ‘do it until you get it right’ I did NOT vote for Brexit, nor would I but I am shocked at the attitudes of those who previously said that there would be ‘no way back’ that the referendum result ‘would be honoured’ then put it in their manifestos and finally voted to trigger Article 50.

I’ve never seen such a U-turn and on something which was democratically decided. We have had votes before and they have been honoured, despite how people felt about the outcome. Why is this so different?

The country is NOT divided except in the febrile imaginations of some political writer, however, our politicians are doing their level best to cause this. It suits their wish to overturn the result. This is a TERRIBLE idea. Never before, to my knowledge, has the UK government ever gone down the road of holding a referendum, promised REPEATEDLY to honour it and THEN overturned it or held a second referendum. This would very obviously be anti-democratic and cause any reasonable person to lose faith in our political system. Why would anyone trust politicians ever again??

No, the only way, now, to be in the EU is to implement the result of THIS vote, ie leave the EU, then campaign for a vote to rejoin. Giscard D’Estang had vetoed UK entry to the EEC, as it was then called, for the reason that ‘Britain will only want to leave again’ and it certainly looks like he was right.

The ONLY thing in this that’s more important than our membership of the EU is our principle of democracy. And that is in VERY real danger at the moment…

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By: Bill https://leftfootforward.org/2019/09/we-must-step-back-from-brexit-before-we-cause-irreparable-damage/#comment-981116 Mon, 16 Sep 2019 20:22:51 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=138464#comment-981116 As opposed to the capitalist clubs of the city of London and Wall street,
both of whom brought down the ‘West’s’ economy and left the working class ‘mugs’ to pick up the tab. I will take my chances with the ‘social ‘ economies of the EU thank you. where restrictions on ‘fat cats’ money concealment is far more likely.

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By: Dick Symonds https://leftfootforward.org/2019/09/we-must-step-back-from-brexit-before-we-cause-irreparable-damage/#comment-981089 Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:21:36 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=138464#comment-981089 Agree, mainly – a small quibble that Labour’s Manifesto actually rejects what I perceive ‘statism’ to be, old-style Morrisonian nationalisation, in describing an Alternative Economy, with Cooperative and Mutuals involved.

But the longer we wait for a Genenral Election the more Johnson’s contradictions will pile up.

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By: Tom Sacold https://leftfootforward.org/2019/09/we-must-step-back-from-brexit-before-we-cause-irreparable-damage/#comment-981056 Mon, 16 Sep 2019 12:02:49 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=138464#comment-981056 And you wish to remain in the neo-liberal, capitalist club of the EU. An organisation designed for the benefit of the bosses of european multinational corporations.

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By: spiv https://leftfootforward.org/2019/09/we-must-step-back-from-brexit-before-we-cause-irreparable-damage/#comment-981053 Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:50:57 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=138464#comment-981053 Your argument In a nutshell:-

Ignore the plebs and cancel Brexit

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