Comments on: Labour’s Brexit policy was too complicated for the doorstep https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Thu, 30 May 2019 14:25:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Eddie Clarke https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/comment-page-2/#comment-967987 Thu, 30 May 2019 14:25:24 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967987 The message was not so complicated; accept the referendum result, but protect jobs and workers’ rights. I support this. But this election was about supporting Europe or “Brexit”. We know how the leadership has spun previous results. Simples.

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By: Patrick Newman https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/comment-page-2/#comment-967971 Thu, 30 May 2019 11:38:47 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967971 I see we have some budding fiction writers here but it is an anti, proBrexit Party agendas we are treated to really. You see what Trump is doing to China. He will have the UK – EU’s little cast-off – for breakfast!

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By: Tom Sacold https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/comment-page-2/#comment-967938 Thu, 30 May 2019 07:14:14 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967938 Labour’s Brexit policy was created to gain support from the metropolitan establishment in the South East.

Labour is no longer interested in the traditional working-class of the North and Midlands.

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By: Andrew Carey https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/comment-page-2/#comment-967893 Wed, 29 May 2019 21:56:07 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967893 What does money allow you to do? Move resources around, create incentives, manage projects. persuade talented people to give up one thing over there and do another thing over here that government desires. It means you can set prices which stop the free market coming in and doing whatever unpredictable thing it might do.
So what is the EU’s biggest budget item?
Anyone, anyone – not on Labour List you won’t hear about it. This must be about the 20th article about the EU and related that has failed to mention that the primary fiscal purpose of the EU is to transfer funds from median taxpayers to those who own large amounts of agricultural land. The alternatives are no subsidies at all ( e.g. New Zealand ) or devolution to nations ( e.g. Switzerland / Norway ).
And the second biggest budget item in the EU budget?
Anyone, anyone.
Care to guess if it’s a hand out from median taxpayers to people who already own a lot of capital? Nah, no-one’s interested really. People’s views of the EU political class don’t extend to that level of detail. They don’t ask what they do with the money and if it’s better to have centralised policies, they just want those who want to tell a whole Continent how to live their lives to do one, and if we make mistakes, at least we can correct them ourselves later rather than having to hire lobbyists to go to Brussels to simultaneously get 27 other countries to change policy at the same time so that we can.

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By: Chester Draws https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/#comment-967887 Wed, 29 May 2019 21:04:43 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967887 A policy to re-run the referendum is the absence of a policy.

Those who vote Leave will regard it as basically an invitation to Remain — why else run it again, unless it is to ensure the correct answer is achieved.

Those who vote Remain will regard it as taking an unnecessary risk, and voting for the LDs at least gets Leave as policy without risk.

But that’s the modern Labour Party for you — contradictory policy on most things. On the face of it being for traditional working class having good jobs, while also having an environmental policy that will actively reduce industrial jobs. Being for Europe while also advocating nationalising industries in a manner that the EU will prohibit. Being for cheaper housing, while regulating the industry so much that private enterprise can’t build quickly enough.

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By: peem birrell https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/#comment-967877 Wed, 29 May 2019 18:44:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967877 ” Labour lost three seats in Scotland”

Wow! – they only had two…

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By: Barry Edwards https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/#comment-967872 Wed, 29 May 2019 17:46:03 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967872 Our opponents had simple slogans so we needed a simple phrase in response, one that hits the head and the heart.

My suggestion, if we now move to supporting a confirmatory vote, is

“Britain, broken by the Tories, not the EU”.

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By: Alasdair Macdonald https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/#comment-967865 Wed, 29 May 2019 16:27:46 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967865 Yes, blame the ‘bloody voters’! The voters knew exactly what Labour was trying to do and punished them for it.

However, I doubt if Labour, particularly in Scotland, can come back from this. All the possible positions on a wide range of issues, including Brexit are covered adequately by other parties which have been much more honourable in their stance.

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By: Jason https://leftfootforward.org/2019/05/labours-brexit-policy-was-too-complicated-for-the-doorstep/#comment-967819 Wed, 29 May 2019 15:29:22 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=136637#comment-967819 Don’t be so bloody stupid. Labour’s policy was to be yes each Monday , Wednesday , Friday and no on Tuesday , Thursday . They took each week-end off !

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