Comments on: Labour should champion free movement indefinitely, not just for a “transitional period” https://leftfootforward.org/2017/08/labour-should-champion-free-movement-indefinitely-not-just-for-a-transitional-period/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Wed, 30 Aug 2017 07:13:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Boffy https://leftfootforward.org/2017/08/labour-should-champion-free-movement-indefinitely-not-just-for-a-transitional-period/#comment-919243 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 07:13:22 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=123077#comment-919243 Labour’s change of stance is a start from the confused, dissembling policy that it was lumbered with before. But, it only pushes that can a bit further down the road. It should make the case for the need of free movement, and so of the need to remain in the Single Market and Customs Union. But, its true that arguing that position carries with it other contradictions, if you are trying to argue the need to also leave the EU.

The answer to that is that Labour should be arguing against leaving the EU, whatever the referendum result was. The referendum result was for a reactionary policy that Labour has no business committing itself to implementing. Would Labour for example, feel it had to implement a referendum result to reintroduce capital punishment if it was voted through in a referendum, or to introduce discrimination against women, or homosexuals, or to ditch all of its environmental goals?

After all, surveys show that there is a very clear overlap on all those issues with those who voted Leave in the referendum, and Paul Nuttall had already raised the idea of a referendum on capital punishment. The fact is that had 16 and 17 year olds had the right to vote, had Labour’s actual message been aired by the media, the referendum result would have been different. By the time Britain comes to Leave in 2-4 years time, many of those old bigoted voters who voted for Leave will have died off, whilst millions of new young voters will have the right to vote, so that there would by then be no majority for leaving the EU.

Why on Earth would any sensible party commit itself to blindly respecting a vote that by that time meant really appeasing the dead, at the expense of the living?

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By: NHSGP https://leftfootforward.org/2017/08/labour-should-champion-free-movement-indefinitely-not-just-for-a-transitional-period/#comment-919078 Tue, 29 Aug 2017 16:15:19 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=123077#comment-919078 If you are a low paid migrant its certainly in your interest to come to the UK.

Tax credits, housing benefits, free NHS, free schooling, social housing, pension, …

It’s not good for the people who have to pay thousands of pounds a year to make up the difference between tax generate and cost of services.

If you think selling state services below cost when you don’t have to [you do for Brits, not for economic migrants], then sell me your house for a quid. I’ll have paid you, but its below cost.

How can you object?

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By: Mike Stallard https://leftfootforward.org/2017/08/labour-should-champion-free-movement-indefinitely-not-just-for-a-transitional-period/#comment-919067 Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:36:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=123077#comment-919067 Sorry, you cannot remain in the EEA – Single Market – Common Market if you leave the EU. It is simply not possible. The referendum result must also be respected. We have to leave the EU. Therefore we have to leave the Single market as well.
Now here is the good news: We can stay in the Common Market if we join EFTA alongside Liechtenstein, Iceland and Norway and, to an extent, Switzerland. All of them are members of the EEA. (aka Common Market).
So far nobody has noticed…

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