Comments on: Dear Chancellor, the Autumn Statement must include £350m a week for the NHS https://leftfootforward.org/2016/10/dear-chancellor-the-autumn-statement-must-include-350m-a-week-for-the-nhs/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:38:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Mick https://leftfootforward.org/2016/10/dear-chancellor-the-autumn-statement-must-include-350m-a-week-for-the-nhs/comment-page-2/#comment-839903 Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:38:53 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=116014#comment-839903 If you think I’m being overly hard, then I’m sorry.I do hear a lot in that reply coming from the same old Remoaners, so I apologise if you’re not the usual suspects.

A plebiscite, by nature, must be simplistic. DO we come out? Yes? Right, HOW DO we come out? That question came rightfully and justly second.

And it is complicated, which is why it wasn’t asked. Do you want your car fixed, mate? Yes? Right, tell me how to do it!

‘I’m not the mechanic!’

]]> By: Chris B https://leftfootforward.org/2016/10/dear-chancellor-the-autumn-statement-must-include-350m-a-week-for-the-nhs/#comment-839872 Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:11:26 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=116014#comment-839872 @ Mick – “You people…”
Who people? ‘Me’ people? I’m just someone who read an article on a website and left a comment to try and make a bit more sense of the world. I’m not ‘the Left’ or a campaigner in any way.
When you also say:
“If you’ve worked that out so late in the day, no wonder you’re behind the curve in so many other ways.”
What does that even mean? I guess you mean that the ‘you people’ you mention (remain campaigners I guess, not me) didn’t figure out that the country just wants to leave regardless of cost? Because I don’t think that’s true…

]]> By: Mick https://leftfootforward.org/2016/10/dear-chancellor-the-autumn-statement-must-include-350m-a-week-for-the-nhs/#comment-839737 Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:20:31 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=116014#comment-839737 “I think the problem now is that Brexit has become an end in itself…….”!

Wooo, Left! If you’ve worked that out so late in the day, no wonder you’re behind the curve in so many other ways. You people work so hard to push agenda that when Brexit means Brexit, you don’t notice.

It’s what we get when we come out which is the tease. But even there, we could have both access to the single market AND the wider free market. Remoaners want us to believe both are the same but they are not. The Commonwealth and Far East economies are gagging for trade deals with us and, with British-based top banks having masses more resources on top of our own economy, there’s still all to play for.

]]> By: Chris B https://leftfootforward.org/2016/10/dear-chancellor-the-autumn-statement-must-include-350m-a-week-for-the-nhs/#comment-839722 Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:51:07 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=116014#comment-839722 @ Alex – I guess your comment means that you suspect the signatories of this letter have an ulterior motive, that motive being to cast doubt on the result of the refurendem as a whole? And I think this is probably right tbh. But does that necessarily mean the point of the letter is incorrect? If anything, I think this point should be being made most strongly to the PM by supporters of Brexit rather than those against.
I think the problem now is that Brexit has become an end in itself, whereas surely the purpose of that Brexit decision was a belief by more people than not that it will improve the lives of British people, and a stronger NHS was one of those main benefits that were highlighted.
So if this letter didn’t exist and we choose to ignore this £350 million NHS promise, the next question would be: how many of the other identified benefits, which were used presumably by every voter in their cost/benefit analysis of the question (!), can we sweep away before that analysis becomes meaningless and people would need to reconsider their thoughts?
If you don’t think people have done that individual cost/benefit analysis themselves, well then I’d say you were clearly anti-democracy to insinuate that people don’t make rational decisions based on information available 🙂
Or it might be that all benefits highlighted in the campaign for the majority people are actually irrelevant, and the decision taken was actually no free movement, at any cost. Or maybe the information available was tainted in some way, say seen through only the prism of a newspaper or other indirect delivery mechanism.
This is a complicated business, this politics stuff.

]]> By: Mick https://leftfootforward.org/2016/10/dear-chancellor-the-autumn-statement-must-include-350m-a-week-for-the-nhs/#comment-839717 Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:31:44 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=116014#comment-839717 Dear Left,

We’re not out of the EU yet! And never shall be, with the likes of most of you wanting to reverse Brexit, for being ‘invalid’!

It was only a protest vote, according to those Remoaners, so thus fit to be ignored.

..Just like you! Now get back to the ratholes you came from and stop bothering Democracy. We already had our say and our say trumps yours.

Love,
The 52%

]]> By: Alex from Carlisle https://leftfootforward.org/2016/10/dear-chancellor-the-autumn-statement-must-include-350m-a-week-for-the-nhs/#comment-839708 Mon, 24 Oct 2016 11:39:36 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=116014#comment-839708 Progressive MPs pretending to give a toss about the wishes of the British people. Bless.

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