Comments on: Gordon Brown targets overwhelming support for EU in Scotland https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Fri, 08 Jan 2016 22:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: RolftheGanger https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/#comment-726838 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 22:13:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=109383#comment-726838 In reply to Helen Oyintando Ilitha.

The SNP are a self government party, not your fake “nationalist” and are pro EU.

Brown’s “charity” has a notably high ratio of “expenses” t donations.

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By: Mike Stallard https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/#comment-726823 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:17:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=109383#comment-726823 In reply to Selohesra.

Aren’t you assuming that the Scots – whoever they are – all want to stay in? Aren’t you confusing Mrs Sturgeon and Mr Salmond with the will of the Scottish people?

https://www.scotlandeuropa.com/eu-policy/regional-rural-and-urban.aspx

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By: Mike Stallard https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/#comment-726820 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:13:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=109383#comment-726820 In reply to Helen Oyintando Ilitha.

Helen, Mr Brown was both good and bad just like the rest of us.
There are good people in the EU. And there are, no doubt, bad ones too.
This is not about that. It is about the future of our country.
It is also about our place in the world – as opposed to becoming a mere “state” within a gradually coalescing and declining Europe.

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By: Mike Stallard https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/#comment-726819 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:07:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=109383#comment-726819 “This referendum should be about jobs, security and the future prospects of our young.”
Absolutely. Like the hopeless young of Greece and the vast numbers of unemployed youth in Spain perhaps? If we want to do some good in the world, we need freedom to act in Africa, the Middle East and Asia and not be bogged down in the EU directives.

“We must be principled showing we do best not just as members of Europe but as leaders of Europe.”
Does he honestly believe that we are anything but outsiders? We are right up there with Liechtenstein, Latvia and Croatia. Those Churchillian days went ages ago. Which is why Mr Brown himself did not sign the treaty of Lisbon with the rest of the state representatives.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1572414/Brown-absent-as-Miliband-signs-EU-treaty.html

“Our destiny can never be some kind of bit-part player semi-detached on someone else’s stage or a bystander hectoring from the wings.”
Which is an exact statement of our present position within Europe until we free ourselves to take our rightful place in world trade and setting world standards.

PS Nobody wants us to be part of an ever closer union; everyone wants us to continue our trade uninterrupted with Europe – and their trade with us. Is that beyond the wit of man?

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By: Helen Oyintando Ilitha https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/#comment-726817 Thu, 07 Jan 2016 21:51:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=109383#comment-726817 In reply to RolftheGanger.

Gordon Brown did not want a peerage from Cameron for goodness sake. He wants to work in the International Aid sector, as he already does with the charity work his wife and himself undertake – without fanfare – to help children in the developing world. The change that left of centre EU politicians and Labour effected over workers lives in the UK was profound after the Thatcher/Major years. Additionally, Brown’s judgement on the Euro kept the UK out of it and we can see now that this was the right call. There were many. many other things that he did that he should get credit for, but I can see that you would rather take a jaundice view. Just know this: the SNP have no monopoly over campaigning issues. Labour and the Socialist Group in the EU are right to bang their drums. It will remind people of the good the EU achieved before people turned to nationalism, protectionism and fear as their political focus.

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By: RolftheGanger https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/#comment-726813 Thu, 07 Jan 2016 20:07:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=109383#comment-726813 Futile attempt by Brown to regain relevance – and the peerage he thought he’d get for being the Tories sock puppet in the referendum.

The pro-EU ‘parade’ will be led by the SNP in Scotland as Brown knows full well.
All he is doing is to try to nip in at the head of the parade and claim the credit!

Not going to wok, you old has been, never were.

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By: Selohesra https://leftfootforward.org/2016/01/gordon-brown-targets-overwhelming-support-for-eu-in-scotland/#comment-726807 Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:42:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=109383#comment-726807 We all know UK is big net contributor to EU but does anyone have break down of that by England, Scotland, Wales & NI. Just wondered if there was any correlation with Scots desire to stay in

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