Comments on: There can be no compromises on TTIP https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: DING DONG UKRAINE IS DOOMED! https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-3/#comment-714884 Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:10:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714884 In reply to CauliflowerEars.

It gives corporations powers over the states. Corporations can sue governments and win large judgments. In short, it is Corporate Fascism on steroids.

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By: DING DONG UKRAINE IS DOOMED! https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-3/#comment-714883 Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:08:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714883 In reply to Meghan Nova.

You are a comedian… the purpose f the agreement is to be secret. If you run the corporate world that is about to get power over the states, would you make it “transparent”?

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By: Nick McBain https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-3/#comment-714480 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:04:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714480 I appreciate the Immense Hard Work put in by Jude Kirton-Darling on this issue, and on many other issues for the North East and UK-wide.
However nuanced tactical compromise and positioneering, to keep hands on the processes of power, doesn’t appeal to voters (please don’t imply from this that voters are ‘dim’ – Milliband did enough of that in May).
IMHO I’m not sure these tactics make an impact in practice either: it probably lost Labour seats in the recent election campaign, and it sure as hell lost them Scotland.

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By: Maria Livings https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-3/#comment-714478 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 14:26:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714478 It’s almost as if 38 degrees knows it made a mistake in ‘naming and shaming’ Jude Kirton Darling and is desperately casting around for a reason to justify their position. The details of TTIP and ISDS are complex , as are the ways that the S & D group are trying to ameliorate the effects on our services and rights, however 38 degrees needs to admit when they’ve got it wrong/misunderstood the situation.

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By: Maria Livings https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-3/#comment-714477 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 14:11:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714477 In reply to Keith M.

Jude Kirton Darling is about as far as you can get from a self-serving individual with her snout in the trough. She’s in there at the cutting edge working to protect our services and rights.

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By: CauliflowerEars https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-2/#comment-714450 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:53:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714450 Trade can create benefits and jobs, but as a 3 time entrepreneur and a
former business strategy Masters lecturer I can say with all sincerity
the economic benefits of TTIP are highly dubious at best. It is a
corporate wishlist and in the main it will only benefit large
corporations. Small and Medium sized business will have winners and
losers, but the net effect could just as easily be negative as positive.
Give the historical results of other similar trade agreements it is
more likely that the effects for small businesses will be negative.
Small business are the medium and large businesses of the future. So
once again we could be selling our future for Wall Street to make a
quick buck now. In light of this reality the “TTIP is happening whether
we like it or not” attitude is ill informed and negligent. The
compromises that were made to accommodate the dysfunctional workings of
Brussells only make any sense if you think TTIP is basically a good idea
if only we can work out the “kinks”. The truth is it is fundamentally
flawed on all levels, not least the secret process of its creation. In
my view it should be opposed on moral grounds, not as “grandstanding”,
but simply because it should be opposed on moral grounds! Yes, there is a
right and wrong way to vote on this!

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By: Caroline Molloy https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-2/#comment-714424 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:28:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714424 Most effective thing people can do now is get behind amendment 27 which rules out ISDS, and not accept the dodgy compromise amendments offered by David Martin and other Labour MEPs. Some of the better Labour MEPs (including Jude) have already signed, along with Greens and others. You can see the list, and how to find and contact your MEP, here. There’s not long – vote on Tues. Let’s not waste time infighting but get behind the better MEPs who are clearly struggling with some of their more reactionary colleagues, including some in Labour.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1smi2a3?new_post=true

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By: Keith M https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-2/#comment-714413 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:12:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714413 Kirsten-Darling not fit to be an MEP. Yet another with snout in trough.

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By: Godfrey Paul https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-2/#comment-714411 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:27:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714411 In reply to AlanGiles.

The FIFA of international politics !

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By: CGR101 https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/there-can-be-no-compromises-on-ttip/comment-page-2/#comment-714407 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:21:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103799#comment-714407 TTIP is a disaster for the national governments of the EU and the people they are supposed to represent. It will give global corporations uncontrollable legal powers over government decisions.

It is going to happen. The anti-democratic forces of the EU will demand it and force it through without Treaty change or any democratic mandate.

The only real and effective way to avoid TTIP is to support an OUT vote in the referendum.

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