Comments on: The SNP giant continues to grow https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: LindaJStone https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-716552 Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:56:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-716552 22222Ultra Income source by leftfootforward Find Here

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By: Harold https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-715044 Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:10:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-715044 In reply to Mauro Andrade.

I agree, it may not become an issue for a while, years even, but Conservatives and Socialist normally join together in their separate parties because of their political views. Nationalists (not just the SNP) have one over-riding cause, which is also Labours mistake of joining the Tories in the Union campaign of last year. Northern Ireland is an example where Republican and Unionist are more important than left or right. What happens when you discuss political policy? If a SNP Leader proposed privatising the NHS would they all support or if a different leader proposed nationalising the railways, water and electricity in Scotland would that be equally supported, let alone discussions about tax and education.

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By: Mauro Andrade https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714954 Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:53:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714954 Yeah, but it’s only now that the SNP has hammered Labour in its key ex-industrial heartland, taking all Labour seats North of the border bar one, many of which were supposedly rock solid safe seats (i.e., Glasgow, Kirkaldy and Cowdenbeath etc).

This gives the SNP a much stronger case to call for another independence referendum, especially if they win convincingly in the Scottish assembly elections next year. In these, frankly, revolutionary circumstances the question of the internal political stability of the SNP comes to the fore. In an SNP Scotland, moving ever closer to independence, are left and right nats comfortable bedfellows for the long term? Harold is right; there are many centre-left new SNP MPs, but equally, there are a good few who are, to put it mildly, not centre-left at all, they simply want independence. The woman Harold mentions as having being on the QT panel last week actually used to be a Tory until she defected to the SNP in 2000.

This will start to become an issue, one which, should Labour play its cards well, it ought to be able to exploit in its efforts to win back some of those 40-50 Scottish seats.

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By: Harold https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714853 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:13:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714853 In reply to Jim Bennett.

Glad to see you do not buy Murdoch, though it was not the question I posed no one buys the S** in Liverpool either. I am not a cheerleader for the murder of innocents unlike the Murdoch press, but as much as you might protest if you sup with the devil get a long spoon.

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By: Jim Bennett https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714827 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 13:56:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714827 In reply to Harold.

Until very recently, the Labour Party, who’s affection for Murdoch can be seen in these links:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3541842/Red-Ed-is-dead-says-Miliband.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8638614/The-great-Murdoch-conspiracy.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/05/print-media-elections-newspapers-candidates_n_7212292.html

Harold, I have never bought a Murdoch title in my life. I have also not been a cheerleader for the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children as Labour Party members are.
Focus your attention on the real enemy – The Blue Tories and their Red counterparts infiltrating Labour.

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By: Harold https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714812 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:57:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714812 In reply to Jim Bennett.

Which Party in Scotland had the backing of the Murdoch press? I will not even buy a Murdoch paper, let alone vote for a party he approves of, shame.

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By: Harold https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714811 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:55:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714811 I watched Question Time this week, on the panel was a SNP newly elected MP, forgive me I do not recall the ladys name, but it highlighted one point which I think one day will rise to the top. The MP was clearly not a socialist or an internationalist, but there again would I expect that from a Nationalist? I have heard and read some speeches from new SNP MP’s who are clearly socialist or at least left wing, my point is that at some point have people with right wing and left wing views in the same organisation will lead to the inevitable infighting. I would suggest not yet but when the first set back or big policy disagreement arrives will be the test. Look at the Conservative and Labour Parties with their “wings” and I dare suggest they are closer together as a whole. I understand from press comments the new intake of SNP MP’s includes, ex-Marxists and Conservatives along with people who could be unaligned, I am fascinated to see how this will progress and I would predict one or more will cross the floor at some point. Equally the ex Labour and Liberal voters in Scotland maybe happy voting SNP but will that remain true if they discover the person elected does not share their political views?

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By: Mark Fletcher https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714653 Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:21:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714653 In reply to JAMES MCGIBBON.

If Stalin lived in Scotland, who might he vote for?
Certainly not the Labour party.

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By: Mark Fletcher https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714652 Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:16:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714652 In reply to Jim Bennett.

That is exactly what I intend to do. Let’s get these Unionist parties cleared away.

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By: Tony https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/the-snp-giant-continues-to-grow/#comment-714625 Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:58:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103937#comment-714625 If Labour wants to help make itself extinct in Scotland, then it needs to vote with the Tories to replace Trident next year. That ought to do the trick.

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