Comments on: Did the 2003 Iraq war create ISIS? https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Tue, 24 Nov 2015 00:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Ian Smith https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-725495 Tue, 24 Nov 2015 00:02:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-725495 In reply to swat.

Khaaaaaaaaaannnn!!!

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By: Asteri https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714475 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 11:46:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714475 More Iraq war apologetics from LFF. Of course global Islamic terrorism existed before the war, but it is the matter of empowerment that the disastrous Western interventions (before and after 2003) which enabled the spread and gave it all the opportunity it needed which is the issue. ISIS declared their ‘Caliphate’ in Iraq in 2006, though not as significant then, it only took a few years before they were able to take over vast swaves of the country in Iraq and in neighbouring Syria. Enabled by the West and the oil monarchies who destabilised Syria as a matter of policy.

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By: Jim Bennett https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714456 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:16:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714456 In reply to swat.

Boom Boom!

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By: swat https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714455 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:08:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714455 In reply to Jim Bennett.

Oh yes, Darius, did well in Pop Idol, cut a record or two, and then disappeared,

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By: Jim Bennett https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714448 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:46:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714448 In reply to CGR.

Indeed CGR, you present an utterly pathetic wilful misrepresentation. Get your Old Testament out, start shaking it threateningly and talk about how Christianity is an exemplar of peacefulness!
Go on CGR, smite the infidel!

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By: Jim Bennett https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714447 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:43:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714447 In reply to Patrick Nelson.

Oh Patrick , your good sense is ruining my attempt at having a laugh at the expense of CGR’s Islamophobia!
I was going to suggest the Zoroastrian religion with their “Think well, speak well, act well” as an example of a philosophy for good but then I remembered Darius…

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By: Patrick Nelson https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714438 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:36:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714438 In reply to JoeDM.

So when do you expect them to try to get you then?

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By: Patrick Nelson https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714437 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:31:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714437 In reply to swat.

“Yes. You’ve got it in one. We have the USA and NATO to thank for
creating these monsters. How do we now put them back in their box?”

Don’t worry they are probably just the stop gap to keep the military industrial complex going and NATO ticking over whilst we wait for the real show of the arms race with China. As soon as that begins I would be surprised if we don’t suddenly find ways of getting rid of these groups.

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By: Patrick Nelson https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-3/#comment-714435 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:09:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714435 In reply to Jim Bennett.

Essentially neither Islam nor Christianity are based upon violent expansion, yet both have had followers who did it at one time or another and the same can be said for many other philosophies and religions. There are many followers of Democracy and Western Liberalism who believe in the violent expansion of Democracy and Western Liberalism into every illiberal non-Democracy that chooses to stay as such.

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By: Patrick Nelson https://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/did-the-2003-iraq-war-create-isis/comment-page-2/#comment-714434 Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:05:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103790#comment-714434 what a load of ****. If Saddam was still in power no one with sense thinks that there would ISIS in Iraq. If Gaddafi was still in power no one with sense thinks that there would be ISIS in Libya. Half of the supposed Jihadists at any one time just happen to be any old Muslim involved in any sort of national liberation struggle the other half are from groups with very peculiar origins indeed, many of which have at one time or another been the political tools of Western geo-political games at one time or another (America supported al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, Israel funded embryonic Hamas to counteract the PLO and according to many sources is currently giving ISIS medical support and military advice as a tool against Iran etc). This article is chock full of Neocon minded total nonsense, like suggesting Al-Qaeda was
in Saddam’s Iraq before the invasion, more so than after. I was surprised when it didn’t quote the dodgy
dossier as well.

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