Comments on: Tory human rights plan hits the constitutional quicksand https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Tue, 19 May 2015 11:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: RoughSleeper https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/comment-page-2/#comment-713189 Tue, 19 May 2015 11:57:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-713189 In reply to RoughSleeper.

As Dr Michael Siegel, we must ……..No!…….words fail me!……… this says enough:

“‘An act of inhumanity against one human, any human, is an act against all humanity.’ That applies to all forms of oppression against any human, in whatever form, in whichever country. ……..Sadly, what happened under the Nazi regime is just one example of inhumanity, but it was a huge and important one that needs not to be forgotten”.

Thank you.

God bless the ‘Righteous Among the Nations’ that set such an exemplary example to us all.

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By: Torybushhug https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-713107 Mon, 18 May 2015 13:36:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-713107 HR’s needs reform.
They have become a charter for cheats and spongers, never on the side of people doing the decent, quiet, proper thing, always on the side of the cunning and the malcontent.
Consider where the legal glitterati focus their energy; people like Helena Kennedy. Never does she choose to focus her energy on the side of the Grandma being hounded kids on her state, oh no, she would be on the side of the unruly youngsters, asserting their HR’s.

Never does she home in on a case of a pensioner that did all the rights things, set money aside only to find this frugality later goes against her when she wants a bit of state help.
Instead the liberal lawyers focus energy on the Somalian, on a host of benefits (and that owns but to lets on the quiet), as clients like this allow the liberal lawyer to ‘virtue signal’ and underline their right on ‘impartial’ compassion.
The Brits are at a disadvantage when it comes to HR’s. Unlike the French and Italians that routinely deport Roma encampments, the Brits dare not conduct themselves in such a common sense ‘naturally just’ manner. Instead we fall over ourselves with enrichment and tip toe dancing around criminal that know exactly what HR’s are all about.
Similarly you get the malcontent disruptive cheating public sector employee that keenly assert their HR’s in order to win lottery sized compensation hand-outs from hard pressed Police forces and the NHS.
Again a charter for cheats and spongers.
Just as the liberal establishment ignored the public will on mass immigration, so it is with HR’s. “Ohh I love my HR’s, what…. they come with responsibilities, eeek”.
This is why we need a more practicable genuinely just HR’s platform.
HR’s as currently framed will be employed on the side of sponging migrants that rock up to councils with 4 kids in tow, when the Tories try to deport them Again not what ordinary people see as genuine justice, when they know of Brits unable to get housing or jump queues (my Brother is in this position despite having paid tax for 3 years, and yet above my business are lots of highly priced flats being let to recent immigrants).
HR’s deliver law, not justice.

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By: SarahTShields https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-713042 Sun, 17 May 2015 16:32:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-713042 In reply to Jon Danzig.

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By: Gerschwin https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-712980 Fri, 15 May 2015 18:07:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-712980 In reply to Keith M.

No I’m just right and you don’t like it.

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By: Keith M https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-712975 Fri, 15 May 2015 17:38:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-712975 In reply to Gerschwin.

You are obviously the kind of ignorant person one cannot hold a reasoned discussion with.

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By: Gerschwin https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-712974 Fri, 15 May 2015 17:34:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-712974 In reply to Keith M.

Bollocks. It grew out of lefties trying to fix down your rights so they could tell you what to do whilst doing whatever they wanted to do without having to answer to you for it. You’re just too dim to see that.

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By: Jon Danzig https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-712946 Fri, 15 May 2015 16:53:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-712946 In reply to Keith M.

Indeed, but often I reply anyway, for people such as yourself to read…

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By: Keith M https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-712945 Fri, 15 May 2015 16:49:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-712945 In reply to Jon Danzig.

You are wasting your time replying to this person who is either very ignorant or a complete wind up artist.

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By: Keith M https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-712944 Fri, 15 May 2015 16:48:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-712944 In reply to Jon Danzig.

Spot on

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By: Keith M https://leftfootforward.org/2015/05/tory-human-rights-plan-hits-the-constitutional-quicksand/#comment-712943 Fri, 15 May 2015 16:48:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=103008#comment-712943 In reply to Gerschwin.

The Human Rights Act grew out of the need for decency – amazing response that you feel the HRA is of no concern – one day you might need its provisions!

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