Comments on: Why we need the Good Right – and what we can learn from them https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: madasafish https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705314 Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:17:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705314 In reply to Cole.

So you believe that that the lies from Tony Blair are acceptable because Tory MPs believed Tony Blair was telling the truth? Yes: they are guilty – of believing the PM was not lying.

You really don’t have any idea: Governments govern and take the can for their decisions: what the Opposition do or say is irrelevant.

But then those who support the left are always right and it’s all the fault of the evil Tories..
As for fatuous comments: tell me what about Rotherham was fatuous? Maybe raping a few hundred children is in your eyes: ? It was evil and those who knowingly shut their eyes and did nothing are evil as well.

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By: Cole https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705266 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 19:45:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705266 In reply to Sparky.

How very tolerant. But to put it simply: we’re right, they’re wrong. Evildoers always have some damned excuse for what they do.

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By: Cole https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705265 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 19:42:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705265 In reply to madasafish.

I can’t be bothered to deal with all of your silly points, but let’s just take one. Are you denying that the overwhelming majority of Tory MPs voted enthusiastically for the Iraq war – a much higher proportion of them than of Labour MPs. It’s a fact, and you can’t wiggle out of it by making fatuous comments. Hint: the standard right wing response is ‘we wouldnt have voted for it if we’d known all the facts, we wuz misled etc’ – which of course no-one believes.

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705255 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:44:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705255 In reply to Cole.

Er…where?

If you look at their policies, they’ve shifted strongly right on economics, immigration, welfare…

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By: madasafish https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705247 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 15:41:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705247 In reply to Cole.

So teh Tories were the Government? Hmm.. I must have missed that.

The politicians effectively hushed up North Staffs deaths – nearly 1,000 – see Burnham’s refusal to hold an enquiry..

As for privatisation: the facts are Burnham privatised more than the Tories have done.

I note you don’t comment on Rotherham… I wonder why not…?

You really should live in the real world…

and as for dismantling it, Burnham made the same claims in 2010 and guess what.?. it’s still here.

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By: Cole https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705240 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:41:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705240 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

They’re certainly less ‘right wing’ than under Blair. And there clearly is a real choice between Labour and Conservative.

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By: Cole https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705238 Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:38:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705238 In reply to madasafish.

The Tories enthusiasticalky backed Iraq (a lot of Labour MPs actually opposed it). And in what world did any politician ‘kill’ people in Mid Staffs? Of course the Tories do dislike the NHS. They voted against its creation, and are now privatising great chunks of it. If they’re in charge after May, you can be sure they’ll dismantle most of it.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705227 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:42:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705227 In reply to Sparky.

You make up things more “factx” than all the other right wingers on this site pit together, as you don’t think but spout propaganda. It’s you, Lord Blagger
(And your accuracy standards)

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By: Sparky https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705212 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:45:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705212 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

You use the word ‘hate’ more than all the other contributors on this site put together. Why do you think that is?

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By: Sparky https://leftfootforward.org/2015/03/why-we-need-the-good-right-and-what-we-can-learn-from-them/#comment-705211 Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:44:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=99821#comment-705211 Would it surprise you to learn that there are people with different political views to you who believe just as passionately as you that their views are morally correct?

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