So you want LESS controls on non-EU. I see. Because that’s what you’re talking about. For example, not counting students in immigration at all, easing the points-based system…

And it’s dishonest to deny a very strong correlation? I see.

“those who are NOT cheating should not be demonised by the Cameron regime and the right-wing media.”

And how will you achieve that sort of impossible knife-edge? Not only that, but your right have not even tried, won’t try and you’re a useful idiot if you think they will ever try.

Oh right, just send back a whole bunch of asylum seekers to be killed. You’re all good with that, “lying” (i.e. applying) isn’t your criteria…you’ll excuse oh…the ones whose ideology suits you, eh? Maybe the ones who support, oh, the old regime? And as you note, you only want the young and strong – good Social Darwinism.

Your sister “worked” to prove that people were, what, older than they claimed so they could be sent back to be killed. Right. You keep talking about how it’s so evil they tried to escape the Taliban.

Keep trumpeting how you support rights which you’d deny others, as you call being able to escape from your sort of society a scam. Or your Dear Friends, like Boko Haram, as you highlight here.

Broken? Broken are your morals.

You are a genocidal loon, Lord Blagger, who routinely calls for killing the workers.

You evidently DO care, deeply. Your late excuses now are excuses.
And they are excuses – you’re protecting UKIP, etc.

I’m not the kind of fool you want me to be, Lord Blagger.

Yes yes, keep trying to misinterpret things, Lord Blagger.
Everyone must hold your anti-trade, isolationist views, blah blah.

Those studies are heavily self-selecting and there is widespread misinformation.
Moreover, the economic costs are not discussed. “Do you wish your salary to drop 30% or more” is part of the discussion.

Except you’re happy for that.

Ha, I’m going to be more left than you now and say that I don’t think all asylum seekers who lied should get sent back. When they tightened up other immigration possibilities, that became a way to get into western Europe. So people lied – apart from nearly breaking the asylum system, so what?
My sister worked with young Afghan lads who even used to lie about their age so that the council would be forced to provide for them when they were deemed as vulnerable teenagers.
And they all have Taliban stories, even ounces from places controlled by other factions.

On the boats coming over from Libya now there is a total mix. Not all are from war situations.
Probably a minority are. And even then, we only take the young and strong who manage to get to Europe.

If it was only about asylum, then you could say that Sri Lanka is safe now. I was in the Tamil part just a couple of weeks ago and I was surprised how peaceful it was. I thought it would feel like an armed occupation, but it was nothing like it. Even the new prime minister has said all Sri Lankans can return without fear of persecution. But I don’t think Tamils in the UK should have to leave.
Although there’s no reason they shouldn’t perhaps. Plenty have been coming back and forth for years anyway.
In my opinion, asylum is a bit of a scam, and was never designed to take substantial numbers of a region’s population in. Maybe some groups will have to be resettled in the West, but it can not be that we empty regions of whole ethnic groups. Or that a Nigerian in fear of Boko Haram should first think of leaving for the UK rather than another city in their own country.

There are genuine asylum-seekers and then there are those who try to cheat the asylum system. Just as with benefits, those who cheat should suffer the consequences — in the case of fake asylum-seekers, that would be getting sent back to their home countries. Just as with benefits, those who are NOT cheating should not be demonised by the Cameron regime and the right-wing media.

We should be VERY careful before sending people back, and I fear the UK authorities are not always being careful enough. If a guy claims to have been persecuted in his home country because he’s gay or the opinions he’s expressed don’t please the local despot, well, let’s be very careful not to send him back to be tortured or hanged. On the other hand, it’s difficult to prove a negative, isn’t it? How the heck do you try to prove a person has NOT been persecuted?

It’s not easy, none of it.
But when the Daily Mail etc. are busy portraying asylum-seekers and benefits claimants as evil parasites, well, it makes my blood boil and I want to pick up and throw something heavy!!

Leon, you’re having a go at me just for saying what’s said in surveys.

This is from the Migration Observatory at Oxford University.

http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-concern

You probably think they are a racist outfit because they say things you would deny.
From that link:

Immigration is generally unpopular
Despite uncertainties involved in measuring and interpreting public opinion, the evidence clearly shows high levels of opposition to immigration in the UK. In recent surveys, majorities of respondents think that there are too many migrants in the UK, that fewer migrants should be let in to the country, and that legal restrictions on immigration should be tighter.

Leon, you are just making stuff up.
I don’t give a monkey’s who lives in what part of the world and in what numbers.
I’d probably vote for ” open borders” of the kind that the online magazine ”Spiked” advocates.
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/4284#.VOYRCyi3QsIVOYRCyi3QsI

Do you understand that Leon? Those probably are closest to my own personal opinions.
Why should I care what happens in Britain? I won’t be alive to see the long term future, and I’m sure it will all work out OK one way or another.

You keep misrepresenting everything I say. If I defend the right of people to vote UKIP without being demonized, you insist I must be a supporter of their’s.
It would be the same as me defending the rights for people to draw Charlie Hebdo style cartoons, and you insisting I was a Muslim baiter.
Can you get that point?
You are slightly annoying Leon.