Comments on: Privatised energy has failed – we need to take back the power https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Sun, 08 Mar 2015 20:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Kevin Stall https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-705072 Sun, 08 Mar 2015 20:03:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-705072 In reply to Guest.

Bonds work better than loans. Besides who is making them? The banks or some other large corporation are the most likely maker of the loan. Isn’t the idea to get away from profit making organizations?

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By: Kevin Stall https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-705039 Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:40:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-705039 In reply to Guest.

Green fees are making power harder for the poor to afford. They say that the renewable energy cost each uk family £250 per year in higher utility bills. There has been a stated policy of Labour to regularly raise the price of automotive fuel to discourage car use. Of course this has hit everyone and as a result raised all prices including food.

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By: Kevin Stall https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-705038 Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:30:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-705038 In reply to Guest.

They also don’t meet demand or care about being efficient. Waste is the watch word for government run business.

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By: Hugh Small https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-704338 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 19:34:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-704338 In reply to Guest.

Yes, got your point which was a good one. Tax could be used to recoup unfairly-generous pension benefits and things like that. But it suddenly made me wonder why nobody has suggested using it against energy utilities making windfall profits.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-704272 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:13:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-704272 In reply to madasafish.

Greece is an example of what you want, when tax isn’t paid, socialist. You keep saying that cash is unimportant because you have so much of it!

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-704270 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:12:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-704270 In reply to Hugh Small.

I wasn’t talking about taxing companies. I was talking about offsetting the individual’s index-linked return with a tax.

(Also, it’s LEGAL for Parliament to pass anything, I’m trying to avoid setting certain bad precedents)

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-704271 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:12:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-704271 In reply to Kevin Stall.

So…..You can’t allow Coops to borrow like other companies. I see.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-704269 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:09:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-704269 In reply to Kevin Stall.

“negation”

Ah yes, trade is evil blah blah.

And you don’t WANT to change the tax laws, because it lets you pay so little. Difference.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-704268 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 16:08:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-704268 In reply to Kevin Stall.

You want them to be unconstrained, unlike the 99%.

Keep saying that only a few people of your social status pay all they owe, you’re just restating well-known facts.

As for America, I didn’t call for their system. Taxing companies on business done here, now…

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By: Hugh Small https://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/privatised-energy-has-failed-we-need-to-take-back-the-power/comment-page-2/#comment-704248 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 11:16:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=93960#comment-704248 In reply to Kevin Stall.

I just checked the Tesla car site and they say a replacement 85 kwh battery is $12,000 if you’ve had one for 8 years. That’s about £80 per kwh (say £1000 for 1 day’s home electricity in UK), but it’s a very cunning marketing proposition when you think about it. It easily beats the 2012 McKinsey forecast of price decline. It seems the Tesla battery is just a skipload of laptop batteries packed in fire-resistant goo. There is a Bosch home system that’s posher. Home batteries need less acceleration/structural strength/lightness and it’s clear that the market for home energy is so enticing given the current high price of grid baseload that a lot of development is going on. Google and Apple are involved. Lifetime of batteries responds to careful charging management.

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