Comments on: Poorest households hit hardest by energy bill rip-off https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Philip Leicester https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/comment-page-2/#comment-700317 Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:48:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=92457#comment-700317 In reply to Rita Taylor.

Rubbish Rita. The subsidies are creating a viable industry and jobs, increasing our energy security and decreasing reliance on fossil fuel imports. As grid parity approaches there will be no looking back 🙂

Fuel poverty is due to high cost of oil, low incomes and a shit housing stock which successive governments have failed to address except largely for social housing through CESP and CERTS.

The worst off are the tenants of the scrounging private landlords who have scooped up the council houses and do not maintain and improve their energy efficiency because they put their profits first.

That said subsidies should be paid for using Exchequer funding, not through the fuel bill, though the total green levy on the fuel bill will be on average compensated by energy efficiency measures by 2020. This will only help the fuel poor if there is better targetting and a compulsion on private landlords to meet energy efficiency targets.

For the costs of energy per megawatt hour (MW/h) of electricity generated:
onshore wind €105 per MW/h, compared to gas and coal
Gas €164
Coal €233
Nuclear power, offshore wind and solar energy €125

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/13/wind-power-is-cheapest-energy-unpublished-eu-analysis-finds

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By: littleoddsandpieces https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/#comment-699472 Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:25:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=92457#comment-699472 More poverty is to come with the Flat Rate Pension now proven to be a complete con, with people now getting forecasts as low as £55 per week, far below even the current basic let alone full state pension.
This affects 2 million workers in their late 50s and early 60s today,
the women born from 1953 and men born from 1951.

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/state-pension-at-60-now

I have cut my energy bills substantially by not turning on the central heating since 2011, which is both gas and electric to run the boiler.

I have purely on demand hot water, with no reservoir constantly being heated up.

And not having a bath, only showers, and doing the ancient way of life of only having a shower once a week.

Washing machine once a fortnight. No dishwasher.

Smart meters are nowhere near according to British Gas.

The poorest are lumbered with pre-payment meters, the most expensive way to pay energy bills.

With 1 million benefit sanctions there is no cash to put in the meter,
so cannot heat and cannot cook food. Especially hard with babies, children, disabled, chronic sick and grannies in house.

In Europe, there are free cafes providing (without any referrals needs) hot cooked meals and hot drinks each and every day, that is, yes, 7 days a week to the working poor, unemployed and poor pensioners (in UK this is 2.6 million pensioners far, far below the breadline).

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/#comment-698864 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 22:23:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=92457#comment-698864 A good part of this is pre-pay meters.

Time to ban special tarrifs for them, and for people on them to be on standard tariffs, with a surcharge based purely on actual costs for the meters. Which, I note, would be near-zero with “smart” meters.

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/#comment-698858 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 22:21:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=92457#comment-698858 In reply to Brian Taylor.

You’re confusing the cack-handed way we handle it with the ways we should be doing it.

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By: Brian Taylor https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/#comment-698739 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:58:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=92457#comment-698739 Renewables are the equevilent of Robbing the Poor to pay the rich, and who put through the most expensive piece bill ever put through Parliament Ed Miliband and all our useless MPs voted for it. I can name only one who voted against it and that was Peter Lilley there may have been others!?.

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By: Rita Taylor https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/#comment-698652 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:32:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=92457#comment-698652 Stop paying huge subsidies to landowners and big companies for onshore wind farms which are unreliable and uneconomical and VERY expensive

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By: sarntcrip https://leftfootforward.org/2015/01/poorest-households-hit-hardest-by-energy-bill-rip-off/#comment-698639 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:59:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=92457#comment-698639 no poll today? orobably good idea as milliband and bals backed gideon charter behaving like libdems

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