Comments on: New pro-independence daily launches in Scotland https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: rollo_tommasi https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-663743 Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:05:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-663743 In reply to Ian Brannan.

Lol……. Wow one NF nutter is that the best you can do? I doubt 99.99% of the population couldn’t tell distinguish him from Adam. Whereas the SNP gladly accept £1, million from that homophobe Brian Souter and are also happy to share the stage with Tommy Sheridan a convicted perjurer.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/deputy-snp-leader-under-fire-for-joining-sheridan-at-rally.25999128

Here’s some quotes from your favourite nationalist…..the pretendy ‘Rev Stuart Campbell’

Bill Walker is innocent. Fact..”

‘Old soldiers? I wish them all dead.'”

http://theweekly.co.uk/ap2/dissent/poppy.html

Look what he thinks of you?

https://ahdinnaeken.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wangs-comment-cowards.jpg

And who can forget his comments on 911.

https://ahdinnaeken.wordpress.com/tag/911/

Of course the YES supporters would never ever dare insult a celebrity online such as David Bowie. Why would they prompt Jim Sillars to write a letter like this?

http://www.scotsman.com/scottish-independence/jim-sillars-open-letter-to-the-so-called-cybernats/

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By: Ian Brannan https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-662779 Mon, 01 Dec 2014 20:51:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-662779 In reply to rollo_tommasi.

The Unionist parties overwhelmingly allied themseleves with the far right in order to secure a no vote, for example

http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/labfront1.jpg

The woman on the left is the Labour MP for Aberdeen South, Dame Anne Begg. She received her DBE in 2011 “for services to disabled people and to equal opportunities”. But who’s her No-campaigning pal?

Here he is, the same day, he is less keen on equal opportunities. http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/labfront2.jpg

He’s Dave MacDonald, leader of National Front Scotland. He’s not a new face in the area – he was the NF’s candidate for the Aberdeen Donside by-election last year, and he’s been politically involved with the NF in the Aberdeen area since at least 2003. It would be absolutely absurd to suggest that Anne Begg didn’t know who he was.

Still, as long as he’s not one of those awful nationalists, eh?

Holocaust denier Alistair McConnachie was the first “permitted participant” to register on the no side and the Unionist alliance accepted both his cash and activism. http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/blogger-kicked-out-of-ukip-for-denying-existence-of-holocaust-gas-chambers-.24311143

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/proindependence-group-paid-academic-to-write-opinion-article-for-newspaper-8782163.html

What’s the problem here? The NO campaign did the EXACT SAME THING, Blair McDougall, director of the anti-independence “Better Together” campaign, was paid by it to advocate Scotland remaining in the United Kingdom. To this end he wrote anti-independence articles including this piece for the Guardian see here – http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/25/scottish-nationalists-no-monopoly-on-scottishness in which he WAS NOT identified as having any connection to “Better Together”.

So we have a Yes advocate who was paid by the Yes campaign to write pro-Yes articles for newspapers on one side, and a No advocate who was paid by the No campaign to write pro-No articles for newspapers on the other side. In at least one case on each side, the writer of the article was not identified in the story as having a connection to the relevant campaign. Seems fair.

You also neglect all the vitriol directed at David Bowie, JK Rowling, John Barrowman etc

Care to post evidence of such abuse? Fact is that there was far more abuse from NO voters than yes voters. https://twitter.com/britnatabusebot

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By: rollo_tommasi https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-659789 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:22:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-659789 In reply to Ian Brannan.

Your attempts to portray the far right as being the face of ‘unionists’
in general is laughable. The Far right organise marches and cause trouble all
across the UK and Europe, they certainly don’t in any way represent any normal sane
NO voter. Then again why anyone in their right mind who is pregnant would want
to directly confront them is asking for trouble!

You also forget SNP links to Siol nan Gaidheal

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11079296/Anti-English-racists-terrorising-the-No-campaign-in-Scotland.html

Talking about academics expressly stating their intentions.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/proindependence-group-paid-academic-to-write-opinion-article-for-newspaper-8782163.html

You also neglect all the vitriol directed at David Bowie, JK Rowling, John Barrowman etc

Thankfully all the abuse on both sides has stopped since the result. Long may it continue……for a generation at least!

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By: Ian Brannan https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-659700 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:48:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-659700 In reply to rollo_tommasi.

Here you go……including a blind man punched by a YES supporter. You will note that article states”

“That arrest came shortly after a blind pensioner was punched in the face for supporting a No vote in a separate incident. The 75-year-old victim, who is registered blind, was ALLEGEDLY struck by a nationalist supporter as he handed out leaflets in support of the Union in Glasgow.”

There is no concrete proof whatsoever that a single yes campaigner enagged in violence during the referendum, evidence of Unionist thuggery on the other hand is abundant. For example one of the no campaign’s thugs kicked a pregnant woman in the stomach – http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/02/scottish-independence-attacked_n_5750732.html

There is ample evidence of other such thuggish begaviour by Unionists –

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/317056/Labour-web-row-I-wish-Salmond-s-father-would-die

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/dads-fury-son-narrowly-avoids-4141853

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/pro-union-campaigner-accused-of-attacking-snp-msp-1-3371090

It was not just random people of the street either, senior officials in the no campaign aided and encouraged these attacks by making inflammatory and outrageous slurs on yes campaigners.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/labour-candidate-quits-after-comparing-pro-indy-kids-to-hitler-youth.1404217014

Alistair Darling the head of the no campaign outrageously compared the peaceful yes campaign to blood and soil fascism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc32Uy889dI

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/academics-voice-freedom-of-speech-concerns-in-indy-row.1384607973 – What’s the problem here – Professor Chris Watley was involved in the “Five Million Questions” project to investigate issues raised by the referendum. But he also spoke at a Better Together event on keeping Scotland in the UK. Should he not have expressly stated that he was presenting BT arguments when he was involved in the project? SNP were right to call him out on this blatant conflict of interest.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/day-of-reckoning-post-yes-vote-says-jim-sillars-1-3539754 – Again what is the problem here? The official YES campaign distanced itself from this speech, unlike the no campaign who never criticised their members making inflammatory speeches such as this – http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/scotland/article3897855.ece

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By: uglyfatbloke https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-659624 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:15:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-659624 In reply to rollo_tommasi.

Overall, both sides should be proud of the behaviour of the campaigns; it was incredibly good-natured. The behaviour of the BBC however was really not acceptable. The endless coverage of Murphy getting egged and the post-event reporting about the attack in George Square was shameful.

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By: rollo_tommasi https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-659585 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:31:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-659585 In reply to Ian Brannan.

Here you go……including a blind man punched by a YES supporter.

http://www.express.co.uk/scotland/512199/The-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-the-Scottish-independence-battle

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11100754/Revealed-Alex-Salmond-personally-pressurised-St-Andrews-University-head-over-independence-concerns.html

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/academics-voice-freedom-of-speech-concerns-in-indy-row.1384607973

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/day-of-reckoning-post-yes-vote-says-jim-sillars-1-3539754

Thankfully its all died down on both sides since the vote and a sense of normality has returned….lets keep it that way. For good!

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By: Ian Brannan https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-659382 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 03:58:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-659382 In reply to rollo_tommasi.

” intimidation of businesses and university lecturers who dare to speak out against independence,”

Feel free to provide hard evidence of your baseless assertions.

“protests against the media”

Are we not allowed to protest in the Unionist fascist state against biased coverage? Example Nick Robinson clearly lied see here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_XhTALHQzI

“tearing down of Better Together posters”

Provide cold hard evidence of these attacks and that yes voters were behind this. Meanwhile in the real world – Unionist thugs attack a defenceless 80 year old see here – http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/scottish-independence-campaigner-80-attacked-1-3077094

SNP offices were vandalised by the no campaign’s thugs see here – http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/nazi-swastika-daubed-on-snp-msp-s-arbroath-office-1.449448

The no campaign’s thugs ran amok in Glasgow performing nazi salutes and attacking people just like the Brownshirts see here – http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/gs6.jpg

http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/gs1.jpg

http://wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/gs4.jpg

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By: 22heghog https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-657613 Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:33:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-657613 Best foot forward. Information is power. The digital edition will increase exponentially, This new platform will be a force for good. A respectable
memes hub would be far better informed, than any here today gone
tomorrow politician.Time to show mainstream media, the way forward
perhaps ?

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By: rollo_tommasi https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-656413 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:05:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-656413 In reply to Ian Brannan.

Mass rallies, intimidation of businesses and university lecturers who dare to speak out against independence, protests against the media, tearing down of Better Together posters……definite parrallels with Hitlers Germany alright

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By: uglyfatbloke https://leftfootforward.org/2014/11/new-pro-independence-daily-launches-in-scotland/#comment-656293 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:52:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=90808#comment-656293 I don’t think it will be a success. All the Scottish editions of newspapers are struggling to retain readers as it is. OTH it may do fairly well for a while. Lots of people were pissed-off at the heavy -handed bias of the print media and even more were infuriated by the partisan behaviour of the BBC….pregnant woman or OAP knocked down in street? No mention at all. Murphy hit by egg? Three days of solid wall-to-wall coverage.

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