Comments on: What’s happening in Scotland is symptomatic of a deeper problem https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Mon, 03 Nov 2014 22:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Julia https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-624957 Mon, 03 Nov 2014 22:34:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-624957 This will come as a shock but people would like a party with socialist values. One that doesn’t support Trident replacement. A party without warmongers. A party who actually did something about the House of Lords. A party that stopped using tools such as PFI to balance the short term budget at a cost to future generations….in short stop being Tories.

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By: robertcp https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-624833 Mon, 03 Nov 2014 20:27:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-624833 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

If we get a chance of getting any proportional system, we need to take it and not insist on perfection.

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-624715 Mon, 03 Nov 2014 18:29:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-624715 In reply to robertcp.

Yea – but there’s just a few details which mean I prefer MMP!

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By: robertcp https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-624714 Mon, 03 Nov 2014 18:25:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-624714 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

I have checked and you are right. I would settle for either system.

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-624709 Mon, 03 Nov 2014 18:23:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-624709 In reply to robertcp.

That’s a common misconception. There’s a couple of important differences between AMS and MMP, to do with i.e. Overhang seats.

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By: robertcp https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-624702 Mon, 03 Nov 2014 18:17:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-624702 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

They are different names for the same system. Just to be clear, I am referring to the system used in Germany, New Zealand, Scotland and Wales.

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-624613 Mon, 03 Nov 2014 16:57:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-624613 In reply to robertcp.

…I’m not in favour of AMS, though, I want MMP.

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By: robertcp https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-623452 Sun, 02 Nov 2014 20:05:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-623452 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

On a more positive note, I am starting to get the feeling that the result in 2015 will be so perverse that any “progressive” government would need to bring in AMS for the 2020 election.

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By: robertcp https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-623451 Sun, 02 Nov 2014 20:03:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-623451 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

That is why I said claimed. My worry is that the Tories will carry on ruling in a minority or coalition government, while the “progressive” parties just blame each other.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/whats-is-happening-in-scotland-is-symptomatic-of-a-deeper-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-623275 Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:14:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89774#comment-623275 In reply to YESGUY.

Ah right, so when you launch your coup…

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