Comments on: The rise of UKIP marks a failure of the left https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-577016 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:43:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-577016 In reply to Alexsandr.

They’re ALL to far left for you, my bad!.

And you obviously do care (deeply), as you invent things about them. I am reading your posts, and being too kind again, it seems.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-577014 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:41:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-577014 In reply to blarg1987.

Their goods? They’d be exploited for low-wage labour for some goods, sure. But the profits would go to big companies.

And no, it’s factual – we’ve seen that low wages mean we don’t get wage growth, and it would be imposed on them by your second-tier EU status rather than anything any domestic government could change.

You’ve not learned the lessons of the right’s economic failures.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-577006 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:40:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-577006 In reply to The_Average_Joe_UK.

And there you go again, advocating death for anyone with different views, just like your ideological forebears, as you are unable to sustain any valid arguments for your ideology.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-577005 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:38:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-577005 In reply to Alexsandr.

So you were lying about the abuse. Or are simply poor at company law.

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By: The_Average_Joe_UK https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-575701 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:39:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-575701 In reply to Guest.

You are not worth the oxygen.

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By: blarg1987 https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-575694 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:32:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-575694 In reply to Guest.

Ok, I am confused, reduction of tariffs mean, east European countries can sell their products and services more easily allowing them to create more money and pay their people more, rather then we increase tariffs to make it more difficult (trade tariffs work both ways).

To say they would never get into the club is laughable as to have that rule will mean east European governments will be encouraged to increase living standards and wages or get kicked out of office by their own people.

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By: Alexsandr https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-575143 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 07:54:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-575143 In reply to Guest.

supported ME? I am not a member of any party.
And I dont care what Labour do on policy. I just point out inconistencies ih their approach. Same as I do with other parties. I think the tories have not done well in government since 2010 and if you look around you would see that I have said that.
Why do you make these assumptions about me?

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By: Alexsandr https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-575135 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 07:49:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-575135 In reply to Guest.

What company? I am a freelance consultant. And I work through a managed service company. Good unfounded assumptions here.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-574674 Sun, 05 Oct 2014 23:06:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-574674 In reply to The_Average_Joe_UK.

Keep demanding titles suit your bigotry and that you should control the media. Then you lash out at democracy, and ignore the fact that the rise of the UKIP is to do with the right, not the left.

No surprise you don’t believe countries like the Nordics or Germany exist, though.

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By: Guest https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/the-rise-of-ukip-marks-a-failure-of-the-left/comment-page-4/#comment-574665 Sun, 05 Oct 2014 23:04:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=88779#comment-574665 In reply to blarg1987.

You are trying to divide the indivisible, to push right wing capitalist loot and pillagenomics.

Not allowing free movement means the same system of visa’s as today, but you are at the same time demanding today’s tarrifs do not apply to goods.

The effect would be harshly negative on wages, of course, ensuring an underclass of countries who would never get into the “club” of “real” EU members.

It’s all about that, in the end, you say that suppressing wages isn’t bad for the least well off, and I do.

And no, I will take a stance against yours and argue it politically, since I am a left winger.

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