Comments on: Cameron must not cave in to UKIP pressure at the EU climate change summit https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Katabasis https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-617845 Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:55:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-617845 In reply to cole.

I have read up on it. I’m citing sections you willfully refuse to read.

Who is the “denier” in this context.

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By: cole https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-617697 Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:50:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-617697 In reply to Katabasis.

Oh just read up on this, will you?

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By: zlop https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-613838 Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:55:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-613838 In reply to Katabasis.

“”green jobs”? That’s an extremely dangerous myth, especially when talking
about an industry that is fundamentally subsidized and is unproductive”

Similar to the perpetual war on everything industry,
Stealing, Carbon Tax Extorting, Corruption increases the economy.

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By: JoeDM https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-612762 Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:51:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-612762 In reply to Cole.

” IPCC say firmly that climate change is significantly caused by human activity and is a serious and urgent issue.”

And if they said anything different they’d be out of a job !!!

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By: Katabasis https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-612606 Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:22:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-612606 In reply to Cole.

AR5 says that the worst outcomes are highly uncertain.

The main line of evidence for these are the RCPs. The technical summary clearly states: “The scenarios should be considered plausible and illustrative, and do not have probabilities attached to them.”

You can see it for yourself but I’m sure you’d rather continue to bleat ignorance and selective blindness.

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By: Cole https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-612558 Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:25:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-612558 In reply to Katabasis.

Have you actually taken in the thrust of the whole report rather than pathetic cherry picking?

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By: Katabasis https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-609655 Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:33:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-609655 In reply to Coke.

I’m citing directly from it. You appear to go blind at that point.

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By: Katabasis https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-609654 Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:33:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-609654 In reply to Cole.

Have you consulted table 12.4 in AR5 yet?

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By: Katabasis https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-609653 Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:32:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-609653 In reply to Newgen Wind Turbines.

“Wrong about the green jobs and the productivity”

Spanish “Green jobs” in fact a job killer:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/finance/2011/november/spains-green-disaster-a-lesson-for-america/

“The subsidies for renewables do not come out of taxes though.”

– They are subsidised primarily through costs passed on directly to the consumer.

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By: Newgen Wind Turbines https://leftfootforward.org/2014/10/cameron-must-not-cave-in-to-ukip-pressure-at-the-eu-climate-change-summit/#comment-609636 Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:21:00 +0000 https://leftfootforward.org/?p=89522#comment-609636 In reply to Katabasis.

Wrong about the green jobs and the productivity. All energy companies / producers get subsidised in one form or fashion. Nuclear, Oil, Gas, Wave, Solar, and Wind.

The subsidies for renewables do not come out of taxes though.

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