Comments on: The UK risks looking foolish if it doesn’t address its coal problem https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: SadButMadLad https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-325648 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:51:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-325648 In reply to Henry Tinsley.

The fact that one of their directors, Pascal Hustings, flies between his home in Luxembourg and the office in Netherlands and has been for a number of years shows that they don’t care about the environment or global warming. They only care about increasing the size and influence of Greenpeace, all to increase their salaries.

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-324197 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 14:42:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-324197 In reply to Henry Tinsley.

He’s right. For the wrong reason.

That’d be their opposition to nuclear power.

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-324196 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 14:41:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-324196 In reply to ShaleGasExpert.

That’s based on unrealistic propositions based in turn on unrestricted fracking, your name’s rather a giveaway.

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By: ShaleGasExpert https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-324131 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:20:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-324131 In reply to Leon Wolfeson.

If there was a carbon tax, the choice for base load would be natural gas, not coal. =

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By: ShaleGasExpert https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-324126 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:17:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-324126 So what’s the solution? Could it include gas? Gas has no issues with competing fuels (including efficiency) but Greenpeace policy is actively hostile to locally produced natural gas.
Nice to commend the advances in reducing coal by the US and China, but Greenpeace seems to have instant amnesia by ignoring the substantial (but not total of course) role of natural gas.

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By: Henry Tinsley https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-324014 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 10:44:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-324014 In reply to SadButMadLad.

Greenpeace are for the 1% and not for the environment? They can reasonably be criticised for many things, but this is just a silly and paranoid view.

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By: SadButMadLad https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-324003 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 10:30:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-324003 In reply to Henry Tinsley.

They might be international, but they only work for the rich in the west. They do their best to stop developing countries develop. Look at how GP stopped a hydro scheme in Chile and hinder India as it increases it’s energy output to make its economy grow. GP are pro the 1%. GP are not for the environment.

As for being locked up by the Russians, the Ruskies do everything to further the selling of their gas. GP haven’t stopped the Russians drilling for gas, its just a publicity exercise to get my donations. GP have stopped fracking in the UK though and that benefits the Russians. Both ways the Russians win, plausible deniability over the Arctic Sunrise case and a market for their gas in Europe because no UK gas.

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By: Henry Tinsley https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-323945 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 09:02:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-323945 In reply to SadButMadLad.

This is tripe. Greenpeace is an international organization, not one solely involved in the UK. Have you not noticed that they campaign on international issues, and that several of their activists were recently locked up by the Russians?

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By: SadButMadLad https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-323357 Sat, 21 Jun 2014 20:16:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-323357 “Dr Jimmy Aldridge is a campaign researcher and analyst for Greenpeace and a contributing editor to Left Foot Forward” and a useful idiot for Russia.

Greenpeace are so worried about the UK’s affect on global climate yet they do nothing to stop China’s affect on the climate. The UK’s affect is less than 1%, yet the vast majority of anthropogenic climate change is by China and Russia. Greenpeace go out of their way to make the UK the nasty one when they do nothing at all at stopping China from filling the atmosphere with CO2. If Greenpeace was really bothered about the climate and the environment they would be in China committing terrorist, sorry protection, acts to stop China’s development of coal power stations. You’d think that Greenpeace are China’s puppets, not Russia’s.

That Greenpeace are bothered about the UK’s 1% but not China is like the way they are bothered about fracking which creates fractures in the rock nanometers in size tens of thousands of meters underground yet they do nothing to stop the bigger holes in the ground via which CO2 polluting fuel is extracted. Coal to you and me. Why aren’t Greenpeace actively picketing and closing down coal mines NOW?

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By: Leon Wolfeson https://leftfootforward.org/2014/06/the-uk-risks-looking-foolish-if-it-doesnt-address-its-coal-problem/#comment-322008 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:46:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=85635#comment-322008 In reply to Fredrik.

So you have no answer to my points. Just nonsense, an attempt at making light of raising the power bills sharply for the poor.

So sorry you cannot possible consider other views, have to ignore the facts which don’t suit your mantras – good exclusionary orwellian thought practice there from you.

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