Comments on: The Home Office needs to come clean about taser deaths https://leftfootforward.org/2013/07/the-home-office-needs-to-come-clean-about-taser-deaths/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Sat, 13 Jul 2013 07:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Jacko https://leftfootforward.org/2013/07/the-home-office-needs-to-come-clean-about-taser-deaths/#comment-214699 Sat, 13 Jul 2013 07:52:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=71679#comment-214699 Oh the big, bad police, trying to protect themselves and the public against violent, aggresive scumbags.

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By: Steve Tuttle https://leftfootforward.org/2013/07/the-home-office-needs-to-come-clean-about-taser-deaths/#comment-214677 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:13:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=71679#comment-214677 This is not an accurate representation to TASER technology. First, we do know the number of deaths in the UK involving a TASER device and there are there have been no causal links between the 5 deaths while 2 further cases are under independent investigation. That’s coming clean.

Next, you state that Amnesty has cited 500 plus deaths. However if you read the report, Amnesty is on record stating 60 of the 500+ deaths are cited as causal, contributory or
“weren’t ruled out” — a far cry from 500+ (read Amnesty’s reports) as that doesn’t mention that the remaining cases were not caused or contributed by TASER device. How about you come clean AFTER you read the full report in Amnesty’s own words?

Your closing asks for Jordan Begley’s tragic death to lead to accountability, responsibility and a comprehensive, independent review of the deaths of those who have died. We’ll gladly take that as will British police any day. But you need to accept the answers. What if
something else is the cause of death? Will the cry for blaming TASER devices end their? I doubt it as you clearly won’t accept the so called “routine referral to the IPCC” as you call this an insignificant response.

How about coming clean in that you are incorrect about saying that since a human rights organisation conducted research suggests that US government data on deaths following shooting with stun guns is also the subject of secrecy as it is in the UK. Secrecy, really? Have you used PubMed to look up all the peer reviewed studies on TASER technology? Have you looked at the studies by the Home Office and DOMILL?

But more to the point there’s an independent five-year study by the U.S. Department of Justice that is published to the public – please look it up as it’s called, “Study of Deaths Following Electro Muscular Disruption” or look up the “Final Findings From the Expert Panel on the Safety of Conducted Energy Devices.” You might even be surprised that TASER devices are the MOST studied less-lethal tool on an officers belt.

The point is that while our technology isn’t risk free it does save lives – more than 110,000 to date. With 107 countries using our technology it’s not an unknown as there are now more than 1.93 million field uses as well as 1.4 million voluntary exposures.

To infer there are unknown secrets behind TASER is dirty pool. Perhaps you should come clean.

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By: Ian https://leftfootforward.org/2013/07/the-home-office-needs-to-come-clean-about-taser-deaths/#comment-214627 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:45:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=71679#comment-214627 I read an article regarding the 10 deaths involved in taser use. Is the writer of this article aware of how the people died? It appears a few shot themselves and died of wounds, a few had stabbed or cut themselves, and one or two may have been on drugs. It is never nice to die, would the writer of this article be happy to go confront a gunman or knife wielding person with a stick and handcuffs??? I thought not, you stay safe behind your desk and criticise everyone else while safely out of harms way. Grow up and get realistic, 10 deaths is a low number… How many people do you think would be dead from these gunmen or knife wielders if they were not stopped?

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