Comments on: The meaning of Gove https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:42:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Mr Reasonable https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-203346 Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:42:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-203346 In reply to Mick.

I have never met any militant left-wingers in any school in which I have taught! Lots of footie fans, cake bakers and Ikea fanatics, though! You may be referring to the late 60s or the 70s, but not, in my experience, the 90s/00s. Conversations about politics would be met with rolling eyes and a tendency to shuffle away from the speaker.

And there is no such thing as ‘neutral teaching’. It’s all subjective. Teachers personalise the lessons they teach; not dogmatically, but through their enthusiasm and their personal characteristics. (Or not!)
A ‘neutral’ lesson would imply a lack of commitment or even involvement on the part of the teacher, which is always a bad thing thing. Which is also to say that sometimes lessons fail and teachers make mistakes – we are not ‘neutral’ robots! If you don’t care about the lesson, how too can the children you are meant to be teaching?

‘Crashing failure’? Evidence, please!

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By: Mick https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201682 Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:05:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201682 In reply to Mr Reasonable.

“I have taught in ‘bog standard comprehensives and found the staff far more committed to excellent teaching than the embittered gentlemen who liked wielding the cane at the grammar school I had the misfortune to attend.”

New Labour made them bog standard, with crashing failure and militant left wingers more interested in politics than neutral teaching.

As can be found if you Google NEW LABOUR EQUALS TREACHERY: EDUCATION. And LEARN.

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By: Selohesra https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201631 Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:33:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201631 In reply to Mr Reasonable.

No I think the left wingers were those unreconstructed marxists sitting in their academic ivory towers trying to destroy the education system from the inside

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By: Robert Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201616 Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:14:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201616 In reply to scousefrog.

Arabic? What use is that? Chinese or German would be far better choices.

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By: Robert Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201565 Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201565 In reply to OurSeaBee.

It is even worse than that. It is a petty insult. The Left seems full of this type of debate.

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By: Robert Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201608 Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201608 In reply to OurSeaBee.

It is even worse than that. It is a petty insult. The Left seems full of this type of debate.

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By: Robert Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201603 Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201603 In reply to OurSeaBee.

It is even worse than that. It is a petty insult. The Left seems full of this type of debate.

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By: Robert Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201563 Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201563 In reply to OurSeaBee.

It is even worse than that. It is a petty insult. The Left seems full of this type of debate.

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By: Robert Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201571 Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201571 In reply to OurSeaBee.

It is even worse than that. It is a petty insult. The Left seems full of this type of debate.

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By: Robert Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2013/03/the-meaning-of-gove/comment-page-3/#comment-201609 Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:12:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=64931#comment-201609 In reply to OurSeaBee.

It is even worse than that. It is a petty insult. The Left seems full of this type of debate.

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