Comments on: Fox News and the Mail: Does anyone trust them (on climate change)? https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Newsbot9 https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190406 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:56:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190406 In reply to Brian.

So, you disbelieve Evoloution then, since it has a significantly smaller base of support (Some 94%) among biologists than AGCC among climate scientists (Over 99%)

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By: Newsbot9 https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190404 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:37:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190404 In reply to M Mann.

Ah yes, that EVIL science. Why, next it’ll tell you that you can’t use disbelief as a reason to fly.

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By: M Mann https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190356 Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:17:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190356 In reply to Newsbot9.

you think antarctica is going to melt in decades? a slab of ice 4 miles thick and a few thousand miles wide is going to melt because the temperature has increased from -20 to -19 C.

adaptation is free. it is just having appropriate behaviour.

“deep-frying the biosphere” – by 0.75 C over the last 100 years! you lot really are nutters!

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By: Brian https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190335 Mon, 22 Oct 2012 06:14:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190335 In reply to Newsbot9.

Weasel word indeed. There’s ‘probably’ man made global warming…better tax everyone.

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By: Newsbot9 https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190332 Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:11:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190332 In reply to M Mann.

“Probably”. Ah yes, a lovely weasel word. Shame about the damage, and if it isn’t? Well, tough.

Adaptation costs are measured in trillions of course, in reality.

“it would take thousands of years anyway.”

Decades. You’re basically in denial, and trying to say it’s all good. You’re deliberately blind to the costs, trying to avoid them.

This is why I favour an ecology tax structured like VAT.

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By: M Mann https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190331 Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:02:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190331 In reply to Newsbot9.

the climate has always changed. a warmer world is probably better overall. adaptation doesn’t really cost. you just adapt. that might be growing a different crop or not building a house on a flood plain.

there is no real evidence for large positive feedbacks. the earth has spent most of it’s existence far warmer than the present. there were no runaway effects. who’s to say an antarctica free of ice isn’t something to celebrate? it would take thousands of years anyway. each generation would just see something they regard as normal. with such slow changes it just doesn’t really matter.

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By: P Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190330 Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:56:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190330 “A famous example of this occurring is the 2007 TV documentary “The Great Global Warming Swindle”. The premise of this programme was that global temperature variations were not in fact a result of the increase in the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide, but rather due to radiation from the sun.”

which is actually research in progress. look at the CLOUD experiments at CERN where they are looking at solar modulated cosmic rays and their cloud seeding effects.

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By: P Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/comment-page-2/#comment-190329 Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:53:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190329 “According to both the Met Office and NASA the first decade of the 21st century was the warmest on record and previous to that it was the 1990s.”

This is patently false. The temperature record goes back many millions of years, for most of which, the temperature has been warmer than now.

If they mean the thermometer based record they should say so. But considering the thermometer was only invented in the last part of the thousand year temperature cycle – it hardly helps.

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By: P Jones https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/#comment-190328 Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:49:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190328 The global temperature has risen by 0.75 C in 100 years. The last interglacial (the Eemian) was much warmer than today. There is no evidence that the recent rise in temperatures is solely or mainly due to CO2 forcing. It could be mainly natural – with a small anthropogenic signal. We just don’t know yet.

The science isn’t ‘settled’. The science wasn’t settled on Newton’s gravity, isn’t settled on Einstein’s relativity and certainly isn’t settled on ‘catastrophic’ global warming.

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By: Leslie Graham https://leftfootforward.org/2012/10/fox-news-mail-on-sunday-climate-change/#comment-190326 Sun, 21 Oct 2012 22:08:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=56550#comment-190326 In reply to mememine.

Oh perleeze. You are not ‘a former believer’ (whatever that is). You are a pernicious ‘concern troll’ – and an obvious and incompetant one at that.
You spam dozens of block and paste gish gallops of long-debunked and falsified nonsense all over the web under several different names from your grotty little home in Niagara Falls. I know your real name.
Wherever possible I report you to the mods as a spammer and inform genuine posters as to what you are about.
If you genuinely want a ‘debate’ – which you clearly don’t – you could try posting a cite to just one single peer-reviewed research paper published by a reputable climate scientist that shows compelling evidence that AGW is not occurring.
Just one single paper. Anything at all.
But you won’t – because you can’t. All you have is is smears, innuendo and blatant lies.
You have been well and truly rumbled.

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