Comments on: Telegraph distorts the truth on energy bills https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Tue, 22 May 2012 14:31:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: The Energy Bill should have included clauses to protect consumers | Left Foot Forward https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-4/#comment-175222 Tue, 22 May 2012 14:31:12 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-175222 […] See also: • Telegraph distorts the truth on energy bills 10 May […]

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By: Anonymous https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-4/#comment-173607 Fri, 11 May 2012 18:36:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173607 In reply to Blarg1987.

Any install which can stand with only routine subsidies is fine, but PV cells have several (5-6, I estimate) more years development before they can routinely be used in this country without major subsidies and prices are likely to spike because of rare earth shortages.

The major problem is wind power, actually, there are major installs going up which will never be commercially viable.

For myself, I’d like to mandate solar water heating (if PV panels are not present) on new housing, myself, since those /are/ generally economically viable.

For that matter, I’d give breaks to stamp duty based on the eco-rating of the house. That’s the kind of thing which will encourage landlords to upgrade the housing stock!

(But not nearly as much as rent caps, which can be lowered for non-compliant properties…)

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By: Blarg1987 https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-4/#comment-173604 Fri, 11 May 2012 18:26:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173604 In reply to Anonymous.

Funnily enough, PV cells have fallen in price by 50% in the last few months, like with all new technologies it does takebut a long time before it becomes economically viable.

A classic example would be the gas industry as in how many billions / trillions of pounds have been spent on that industry and its percentage feedback now? I think renewables are well down on the amount of investment overall.

I do agree we need a mixture of technologies including nuclear, as to put all our eggs ine one basket would be suicidal, the reason it is costing us so much now is that very little real term investment has been made into the energy industry over the last 30 years.

We should have used the money generated from North Sea Gas ti reinvest in the enxt generation of energy such as Nucelar etc at the time, but the goverment in question used it to provide tax cuts, all in all politically stupid.

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By: Adam Bell https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-4/#comment-173558 Fri, 11 May 2012 09:28:41 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173558 Good article by @wdjstraw on energy bills: http://t.co/kMeUYMS0 End: 'Will Telegraph admit their error and issue a clarification?' #QTWTAIN

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By: Alasdair Reid https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-4/#comment-173559 Fri, 11 May 2012 09:17:28 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173559 RT @leftfootfwd: Telegraph distorts the truth on energy bills http://t.co/d6rmxCjn

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By: Foxy52 https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-3/#comment-173532 Fri, 11 May 2012 08:22:06 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173532 RT @leftfootfwd: Telegraph distorts the truth on energy bills http://t.co/HkcpXtBj

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By: BevR https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-3/#comment-173533 Fri, 11 May 2012 07:54:24 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173533 RT @leftfootfwd: Telegraph distorts the truth on energy bills http://t.co/HkcpXtBj

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By: Anonymous https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-3/#comment-173394 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:33:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173394 SO when the renewable obligation generators (that’s what they are) are built and costs spiral 7-8 times above real output (as they have for existing builds), and bills rise by £100+ a year to support this, you’ll ignore the people being frozen out.

Energy costs are set to keep rising very sharply ahead of inflation in the real world.

Nuclear power – it makes sense. But it’s not as good for Cameron’s friends, so it’s being sidelined. They’ve realised how much RO generators can make them…

(Energy “efficiency”? Ah yes, getting people to disconnect. Since landlords don’t give a flying ***** about it, they don’t pay the energy bill!)

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By: Mr. Sensible https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-3/#comment-173392 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:28:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173392 The right just don’t get it on energy do they…

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By: John Farrar https://leftfootforward.org/2012/05/telegraph-distorts-the-truth-on-energy-bills/comment-page-3/#comment-173450 Thu, 10 May 2012 18:20:26 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=50034#comment-173450 Seek the truth http://t.co/68LS4V5y

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