Comments on: Policing is political already – why should police commissioners hide their allegiance? https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Wed, 30 May 2012 14:33:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Police Commissioners: Less machismo, more safeguarding vital services | Left Foot Forward https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-5/#comment-176465 Wed, 30 May 2012 14:33:12 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-176465 […] Policing is political already – why should police commissioners hide their allegiance? 7 Mar […]

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By: Cllr Jon Harvey https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-4/#comment-168990 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:08:05 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-168990 @Ebenwolfe politics is already in policing: http://t.co/d6VvfECx

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By: Jon Harvey https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-4/#comment-164731 Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:02:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164731 In reply to JC.

Outsourcing computing systems to (say) the cloud could well be a political issue as well an ethical one given the sensitive nature of the information held. Outsourcing patrol (as the OJEU notice from WestMIds and Surrey police includes) could well be, um, a political issue.

There will be PCC candidates who will gloss over outsourcing as being purely a managerial issue – there will be other candidates who will declare outright resistance to any further privatisation and there will be still more who will say they are highly sceptical and who worry about the long term consequences.

I am in the third camp. Just as with the proposed extreme marketisation of the NHS that may well be about to slip ignominiously onto the statute book (notwithstanding this weekend’s LibDem conference – although I am not exactly holding my breath – I remain hopeful…) – what will suffer most in the creation of the nH$ is seamless & integrated care. Just as if PCSOs were to be outsourced to a private security company – this will mean that the public may only get to see a warranted officer in times of extreme stress.

When PCSOs were first introduced – many people argued against them (and still do) on the basis that community policing would be fragmented as a result of the public seeing ‘real’ police in only extreme circumstances. Outsourcing would take such a worry to another level.

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By: Police commissioners: Labour must seize the opportunity with both hands | Left Foot Forward https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-4/#comment-164635 Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:47:23 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164635 […] also: • Policing is political already – why should police commissioners hide their allegiance? – Jon Harvey, March 7th […]

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By: JC https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-4/#comment-164481 Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:18:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164481 In reply to Jon Harvey.

I didn’t realise that outsourcing was a political issue. Do the police manufacture their own paper, computers, bricks and clothing, or do they buy these in?

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By: Cllr Jon Harvey https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-4/#comment-164429 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 23:23:42 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164429 Policing is political – Y shud police commissioners hide allegiances?: http://t.co/acAqYP2d writes@CllrJonSHarvey #policecommissioners

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By: Cllr Jon Harvey https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-4/#comment-164430 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 23:23:16 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164430 Policing is political already – why should police… http://t.co/pTADx5Xl #Public_Services_for_All #John_Prescott #muslim #tcot #sioa

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By: Cllr Jon Harvey https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-4/#comment-164431 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 23:22:50 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164431 Left Foot Forward – Policing is political already – why should police commissioners hide their… http://t.co/CgzqlFQ7

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By: Cllr Jon Harvey https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-3/#comment-164432 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 23:22:33 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164432 Policing is political already – why should police commissioners hide their allegiance? http://t.co/Ltz5glb2

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By: Cllr Jon Harvey https://leftfootforward.org/2012/03/policing-is-political-already-why-should-police-commissioners-hide-their-allegiance/comment-page-3/#comment-164433 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 23:21:53 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=47940#comment-164433 Left Foot Forward oversees TVP Police Authority meeting and ponders on politicised PCC's http://t.co/WdDPQJ12

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