Ed Jacobs calls on the Britain 2012 to decide if we are a Christian country or not.
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Ed Jacobs is a member of the Christian Socialist Movement and City Evangelical Church in Leeds
Amidst the on-going rancour now manifesting itself between what has simplistically been dubbed “the church” on the one hand and gay rights activists on the other over same sex marriages, and the report in last week’s Sunday Telegraph that the government intends to argue at the European Court of Human Rights that Christians do not have a right to wear a cross or crucifix openly at work, we are perhaps overlooking the core of the debate we should now be having, namely are we and do we want to be a Christian country, and if so, what should that look like in practice?
As a Christian, it has been heartening to hear the words coming from government of late.
Before Christmas we heard from the prime minister himself, in a speech marking the 400th anniversary of the King Jams Bible, pledging to “actively stand up and defend” the morals and values contained within the bible which have shaped our society.
Last month it was the turn of Conservative Party co-chair, Baroness Warsi, to argue at the Vatican:
“Europe needs to become more confident in its Christianity.”
Communities and local government secretary, Eric Pickles has also declared:
“We are a Christian country and we should not be afraid to say so.”
And even Nick Clegg’s plans for House of Lords reform envisage 12 bishops maintaining their seats.
But get beyond the words used by the politicians and the mood of the public as outlined in a series of recent YouGov polls give food for thought for all those engaged in the development of public policy.
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In recent polling (pdf) for the Sunday Times, for example, 36% of respondents felt Britain had become too secular compared with 31% who felt the balance was about right as it stood and the 17% who felt it was too religious.
Forty nine per cent feel religion continues to provide “critical guidance for the way we live our lives”, compared to 40% who object to this statement, while 38% said they believed in God, compared to 33% who said they didn’t.
As a Christian, I’m not going to argue that policy makers should listen only to the voice of Christians, particularly on critical issues of conscience.
Indeed, the fact that the proportion of people who, according to YouGov, believe in God as compared with those who don’t is so close it doesn’t provide a right for Christians to have their beliefs forced on other people.
As an Evangelical Christian who seeks to share God’s love, that love is accepted best when people have the opportunity to hear the Gospel, have questions answered then reflect on it themselves. Imposing faith on them does nothing other than to build a sense of resentment.
But equally, those not of faith, those who argue for a secular society, must recognise also that as a society all is not black and white and that Christians have equal rights to them to contribute to the national debate over many issues surrounding poverty, same sex marriages and abortions to name just a few without being labelled “bigots”.
At the heart of the problem is that we seem to drift from one policy issue to another without posing the critical question, namely are we a Christian country or not, and if so, what does that mean?
During his conference speech last year, Ed Miliband argued there was a need for a new society. In establishing what that new society for 21st-century Britain should look like, those of faith need to be at the very top table of the debate, shoulder to shoulder with those not of faith, establishing the very morals, ethics and values we in Britain want to be driven and bound by.
It’s time to decide.
Let’s not give the pretence of us being a Christian country as argued by Cameron et al if we are not prepared to put meat on the proverbial bone.
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32 Responses to “Are we a Christian country or not? It’s time to decide”
Ash
“those not of faith, those who argue for a secular society…”
*sigh*
First of all, I’m not aware of anyone who’s arguing for a secular *society* – a society devoid of religious belief and practice. What secularists argue for is a secular *state*, which is a completely different kettle of fish. We have no problem with churches, religious charities etc. being part of the fabric of society, so long as the state institutions serving people of all faiths and none keep their noses out. (No religion should be either established or banned, for instance; no state institution should be holding prayers, or require employees to be members of any faith group, or educate children in any faith, etc.)
Secondly, “those not of faith” and “those who argue for a secular [state]” are two distinct (if overlapping) groups. Some people of faith believe in a secular state, and no doubt some people who don’t have faith nonetheless think that state-funded church schools (say) are a good idea.
Anyone who worries that the separation of church and state means religion being excluded from public life should look at the US. The idea of state-funded faith schools, or an established church with members sitting ex officio in the legislature, would look absolutely nuts over there; but that hardly means that religion has been sidelined. In fact you could argue that the US is a Christian society with a secular state.
Joy Cherry
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Cambusken
I think you answer your own question, namely that we are a secular country and not one which privileges one religion over another. Nor is everyone is welcome in democratic debate – not racists, not sexists, not antisemites – and not homphopbes neither, which is the area Church leaders have chosen in which to define themselves. (You might detect a slight difference with Our Lord here). Church leaders’ language in the gay marriage debate is manifestly homophobic, with but an ornate (and so tawdry) connection to either scripture or reason. The structure of their, and your, rhetoric is the stuff of prejudiced debate in all the areas of equality – your talk of “gay rights activists” a variation on lobby, agenda, etc. It is a step away from, but fully consonant with, archbishops’ talk of gays being worse than dogs.Thankfully the vast bulk of Christians views are informed by the spirit, as is shown by their general decency in all social matters. Quite distinct from that of their so-called leaders.
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Paul Parker
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