Oil not an asset. So its free and worthless. The rump can keep the lot then.

Yeah we get it though.

You want a Barnett formula share of the cash now, because its more than your fair share. On break up you want to take less than your fair share.

You don’t want to take on RBS and HBOS and their bad debts.

You want to keep sterling, but won’t knuckle down to the imposed financial conditions that come with that.

You want the rump to sign you up to the EU.

You want payments for development from the EU, paid for by the rump.

In otherwords, you’re free loading …

Oil is a resource and resources will be confined to territorial area of the country in question

I thought Scotland wanted 100% of the Oil?

Are you saying that they will accept a Barnett formula share of that?

I’m not denying anyones right to define Scottishness their way but as independence in the modern world is virtualy impossible without a degree of inter-dependence (like Britain in the EU or America in the IMF) it is pejorative to label Scottish Nationalists as “separatists” especialy when they are pursuing an agenda of social union. Some have even described Salmonds brand of nationalism (as a political not social label) as closer to confederation.
I also disagree that Labour and the LibDems are both devolutionists. The LibDems call themselves Federalists, which is not the same thing as the lopsided devolution of power that has been devolved to some of the parts of the UK. I personaly, do not want to see the devolution model continualy patched as I do not believe it to be equitable to all residents in thes islands. Does that entitle anyone to characterise me as not progresive. Labour are betraying themselves by refusing to grasp the thistle and accept that whatever constitutional changes are implemented in the next years, they need to be “fair” to all. This rules out the soon-to-be no more status quo and any other form of asymetrical devolution.
So lets see the debate move on…

I presume you would use the same formula to apportion assets too.

I agree that those people who call for Scotland to remain in the UK, while calling for the UK to come out of the EU are disingenuous at best – hypocritical at worst.

I think we need to be careful about terminology, Unionist is surely someone, like the conservatives who want to maintin the union as it was pre-97. Even today there are many in the cnoservative party who hate the Holyrood parliament, and desire its dissolution.

i would say that Labour – and the Lib Dems are generally devolutionists, ie those who want devolution of power to the Scottish people in the form of the Scottish Parliament. There may be difference in what powers they want to be devolved, but this is surely a matter of degree.

Then you have the seperatists. I think this is a more honest term than nationalist, as surely you can be a nationlist while also being one of the other two? For centuries we had proud Scots who were satisfied with the Union as it was post 1707, or those who wanted a devolution/Home Rule. But the idea of seperation is not what defines someone as Scottish.

Great to see that academics will be banned from being members of political parties in an independent Scotland. Unless, of course, they are members of the SNP. That will be just alright!

Great to see that academics will be banned from being members of political parties in an independent Scotland. Unless, of course, they are members of the SNP. That will be just alright!