Comments on: Slowly but surely, Ed’s speeches are getting better https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Martin H-E https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-5/#comment-190596 Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:12:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-190596 Did you buy your MA on the internet? The sick patient analogy that you suggest is a ridiculous idea. I’ll tell you for why; it has been used before. Do you know who used it? I’ll save you looking it up on Wikipedia or wherever you source your ignorance from and tell you; it was Margaret Thatcher. ‘Left wing intellectuals’ aren’t what they used to be.

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By: Blair: “The money is just a way of funding the rest of the things I do” | Left Foot Forward https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-4/#comment-134774 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:36:39 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134774 […] name was booed by sections of the Labour party during Ed Miliband’s leader’s speech on […]

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By: Anon E Mouse https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-4/#comment-134687 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:50:00 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134687 scandalousbill – You are indeed right about certain companies behaviour but are missing my point.

It wouldn’t matter if Ed Miliband could turn seawater into gold – no one would buy it off him because he’s simply unelectable. His personality is just too weird. He looks like a public schoolboy in his blazer not a potential world leader.

I know it. You know it. The PLP know it. The Labour Party members know it. The polls show it. Everyone reading this knows it. He only leads because of the Union dinosaur votes and unless Labour ditch him now they will be trashed at the next election.

Which is what I said about Gordon Brown and I was right then as well….

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By: Robert the crip https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-4/#comment-134677 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:01:37 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134677 So lets see Ed comment off Camera we are told yet with a camera following him, They want to know if we are to the left or to the right says Balls smiling at the camera which of course nobody sees, replay from Ed ya we are in the middle laughter camera stops of course it’s the BBC and they walk off set, talk about put up.

Later on Ed is asked about welfare reforms and he says of course welfare must change , because well because of the Banking crises, hold on your welfare reforms started in 1997 not when the banking crises started or did we miss something.

Now we see Miliband looking back to Thatcher telling us Thatcher was right on Union reforms, she was right on spending, was she, but why look back why not tell it as if you were going to do it, then after his kick at Blair , he says Blair was right as well, so what is so different between Ed and Kinnock, not a lot really bother are heading out the door one because he is old and the other because he has no ideas.

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By: Robert the crip https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-4/#comment-134676 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:54:30 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134676 The wonga loans and the others of course were around under labour, in fact my local CLP wrote to Labour about it the response they had was zero. Yes of course these people are making money off the poor, but then again Labour did sod all to stop it

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By: Dave Citizen https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-4/#comment-134668 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:14:34 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134668 I’m just glad Labour has got someone who is prepared to venture into a reasoned rather than purely tactical debate.

The politics of populism, though undoubtedly tempting for the career minded politician, is not what we need at the moment. Difficult times lie ahead and powerful vested interests know what’s at stake for them. Even the most naive of airheads realises that such interests seek closer control of popular opinion during times of change. Anon – if you think your interests are well aligned with these people’s, then bully for you. If not, then please tell me who you think is better placed to protect your interests – I’m genuinely interested to know!

Robert – I’m interested in your criticism of Ed. To my ears he’s the first mainstream Leader in a long long time to talk about what to me are the key issues for social justice and prosperity – extreme inequality and the lack of democratic control of our FM capitalist economy. While I would be much more radical myself, I think ED does get it on building a democratic and prosperous society to replace the corrupt, elite manipulated and inefficient dog’s dinner we have now.

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By: Mark Jenner https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-3/#comment-134667 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:46:40 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134667 I hope Team Ed read this!

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By: scandalousbill https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-3/#comment-134664 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:20:03 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134664 Correction,

should read mis-selling

sorry

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By: scandalousbill https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-3/#comment-134663 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:19:12 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134663 Anon,

You say:

“Surely not that weird anti business speech from the conference.”

Now considering the fact that you maintain, “Labour has not been a party of the working classes for a long long time”, how can you look at examples like the extortionist interest rates charged by Payday Loans or Wonga.com and view them as anything but actions of predatory capitalists? Was the OFT action against PPI misspelling simply a leftist bureaucratic interference with the entrepreneurial spirit of fine British Banks? There are many examples that would justify Ed Miliband’s notion and I would say that action needs to be taken to offset the harm caused by such exploitations.

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By: Liberanos https://leftfootforward.org/2011/09/ed-miliband-speeches-are-getting-better/comment-page-3/#comment-134660 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:41:14 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=40521#comment-134660 Ed’s appalling delivery would not be acceptable,even with a solid, well-considered argument. With the lack of it,not to mention the ominous,profoundly retrograde,lefty-tinged glow surrounding it, the speech was a disaster for any party member hoping for a decent shot at power in the next election.

The party chose David. But the unions elected Ed. I hope they’re happy.

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