Comments on: The fragmented society: How irresponsibility and inequality feed off each other https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:25:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Pete https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-7/#comment-126787 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:25:54 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126787 It is essential that we ensure equality of opportunity and basic rights to education, employment, health care and services to redevelop deprived areas. People become irresponsible because they don’t have the resources to resolve the issue and threfore don’t see any point in trying. http://politicsreview.co.uk/2011/08/19/broken-britain-v-breaking-even/

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By: theTellurian https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-7/#comment-126108 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:53:01 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126108 There is a lot of analysis and finger pointing following the riots in England. The media is trying to psychoanalyse the mindset of the rioters and be asking what motivated the violence and theft. There will be much talk about the underprivileged youth and sense of hopelessness in these poor areas. Politicians will try to take advantage of the events, blaming the other parties’ policies as the cause.

What will be overlooked is the main reason why the riots took place and what motivated the mob mentality. These rioters are the children of the State. Raised by parents on welfare, housed by councils, schooled by government run schools, healed by socialised healthcare and completing the cycle by graduating to the dole queues. The welfare is funded by the very people that these rioters attacked; the hard working taxpayers in this country.

The Welfare State is the cause of the inequality people seem to be rallying against. But no one will mention it. We have one part of the population (taxpayers) made to serve the 6 million people on benefits, yet what this article is suggesting is that its not the fault of the rioters, its the fault of the taxpayers. The taxpayers should be handing over even more to make things more equal!

Frankly, I don’t think its fair or equal that the taxpayer is made the servant of these people. As long as Britian maintains it status as a Welfare State, the cycle of dependency will continue. London has had riots in 1958, 1981 and 1985. We can add the riots of 2011 to that list.

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By: Dave Citizen https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-7/#comment-126074 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:18:23 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126074 Wakey wakey Mike!

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By: Marc Kidson https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-6/#comment-126069 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:02:51 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126069 Nice look at inequality on @leftfootfwd: http://t.co/9vK5kPV. Complements my own analysis on Two Cheers blog, here: http://t.co/ui7oj2W

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By: Mike Thomas https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-6/#comment-126067 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 12:38:50 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126067 Dave,

Please do debate my post because it’s actually on the subject matter and it’s not a Spartist rant about my pet subject.

So, go on, do it.

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By: Dave Citizen https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-6/#comment-126053 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:17:20 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126053 Mike – interesting how you have such confidence that you know what other people are and that you think words like “utterly moronic” are appropriate when someone expresses a different opinion – I’m tempted to jump to a similar conclusion about you based on your post but I will resist.

As I said – it is ironic that many of the people who say they believe strongly in social responsibility, hard work and not milking tax payers are often the last ones to criticise such behaviour by the super rich.

I guess there are still many people who aren’t ready to wake up to the fact that they’re being taken for a ride by the very people they’ve been looking up to.

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By: Jaymeeღ https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-6/#comment-126063 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:05:59 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126063 RT @leftfootfwd: The fragmented society: How irresponsibility and inequality feed off each o: http://t.co/f7eBQSG : writes @One_Society…

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By: Mike Thomas https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-6/#comment-126048 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:44:30 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126048 Dave,

How utterly moronic to make this an issue for the “rich”. The richest 10% pay over 40% of all income tax and have some of the highest tax-rates placed on them in the G20.

They don’t break the law, they provide for their families without need or recourse to the State.

You are another leftie that seems to have removed the word ‘morality’ from their lexicon and if you think that you solely have the answer by giving these people more taxpayer’s money – you haven’t got a clue.

Knowing right from wrong costs nothing.

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By: Noxi https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-5/#comment-126010 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:32:14 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126010 RT @leftfootfwd: The fragmented society: How irresponsibility and inequality feed off each o: http://t.co/f7eBQSG : writes @One_Society…

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By: Knut Cayce https://leftfootforward.org/2011/08/the-fragmented-society-how-irresponsibility-and-inequality-feed-off-each-other/comment-page-5/#comment-126005 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 23:21:52 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=38518#comment-126005 RT @leftfootfwd: The fragmented society: How irresponsibility and inequality feed off each other http://t.co/hKmGcNa

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