Comments on: The lessons Labour should learn for any future coalition negotiations https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:37:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Simon Landau https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/comment-page-2/#comment-91759 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:37:18 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91759 The biggest difficulty that Labour had in May was that the voters had voted against the government (not just Brown).
A similar problem may occur next time – a perception that the voters have voted against the coalition government. That makes it imperative that any Labour coalition preparations on are on the basis of:-
a) Lib-Dem policies shared with Labour that the coalition government have deprioritised
b) relationships with Lib-Dems who have a track record of not supporting the coalition.

Of course there will be nuances in the above but a) is easier to achieve than b). That makes it all the more important to get private disquiet at the top of the Lib-Dems translated to public dissent. On the current track record it will be more difficult to forge relationships with Alexander, Clegg and Laws than Cable or Huhne. Equally council leaders like Paul Scriven at Sheffield is doomed on his current record to sit outside the tent while the 91 letter signatories may be difficult but not impossible.

The great unknown is where the future leaders like Tim Farron want to be ?

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By: Stephen May https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/comment-page-2/#comment-91746 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:58:55 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91746 Interesting analysis. It would be worth the current Lib Dem leadership noting your points. If the electoral changes do succeed it’s possible that the next government will be a Lib/Lab coalition. However, the current behaviour of a number of senior Lib Dems is going to make that difficult. It’s very hard to see how Milliband could form a government with the Lib Dems unless Clegg, Alexander, Huhne, Laws and a few others are removed from the senior positions in the Lib Dem party that they currently occupy.

The extent to which the senior Lib Dems have taken to criticising Labour is extraordinary given who they might have to work with in a few years.

It’s not just Labour that needs to approach the Lib Dems differently, the Lib Dems need to wind their necks in a hell of a long way before they could position themselves as future governmental partners for Labour.

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By: paul barker https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/comment-page-2/#comment-91530 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:28:15 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91530 Surely the vital point is that Milliband must never go crawling to The Sun, claiming to be “Tougher” on Crime or Drugs or Immigration. That would close off any openings to The Libdems forever.

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By: william https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/comment-page-2/#comment-91506 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:19:10 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91506 ‘Manners maketh man’.Ed Miliband or Gordon Brown come from a less than civil background,cf. Tony Blair.Nobody would negotiate a coalition with Labour , led by these sort of people.Ask Nic Clegg.

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By: Alan W https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/#comment-91434 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:04:04 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91434 Matthew – Your suggestions all seem pretty sensible, but I’m not sure how much difference they would have made to the negotiations last May.

The most important single factor back then was simply that the parliamentary arithmetic meant any deal between Labour, the Lib-Dems and assorted others, would have been a complete nightmare. I doubt if it would have held together to Christmas.

It’s also quite clear that Clegg and the Orange Book clique at the top of the Lib-Dems were always going to be pre-disposed towards working with the Tories. However, had the numbers been different, and a straight Labour – Lib-Dem tie-up been capable of producing a working majority, I think Clegg et al would have had much more difficulty selling a deal with the Tories to their party.

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By: Éoin Clarke https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/#comment-91431 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:54:30 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91431 The very concept of ever doing a deal with yellows is an anethema. Let us hope that it does not ocme to pass in the near future. Talk of a hung parliament exacerabtes its likliehood, so perhpas we should say nothing about it. Not only that, a red manifesto cannot be diluted, or pomises broken, to the extent that has ocurred this time around.

If there is to be future coalition negotiations I think that it is epsecially important that it is not based on freindhsip, shared values but instead cold hard bargaining… wanting a coalition to survive for surivival sake makes parties and leaders appear power hungry.

In short, there is much that can be learned from the SNP’s minority government in Holyrood.

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By: Deborah Segalini https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/#comment-91425 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:44:48 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91425 RT @leftfootfwd: The lessons Labour should learn for any future coalition negotiations: http://bit.ly/gyk4jw

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By: Hugh https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/#comment-91420 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:31:44 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91420 Brown may have been poorly prepared, but who could blame him for not risking any pre-election leaks given the response of all manner of nutjobs (Hoey, Abbott), Brown-haters (Reid, Blunkett) and opportunists (Burnham) to the Lib-Lab coalition when finally proposed?

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By: Jamie Graham https://leftfootforward.org/2011/02/the-next-hung-parliament-lessons-for-labour/#comment-91407 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:08:44 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=28379#comment-91407 RT @leftfootfwd: The lessons Labour should learn for any future coalition negotiations: http://bit.ly/gyk4jw

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