Comments on: Double whammy of university policy failures threatens young people https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:29:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Double whammy of university policy failures threatens young people « AaronPorter's Blog https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-5/#comment-79601 Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:29:12 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-79601 […] https://www.leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-p… […]

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By: tpi https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-5/#comment-47838 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:41:31 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-47838 Hmm… so much for evidence based political blogging then. Not a shred of evidence offered by the author.

The hint is probably in his caveat:

QUOTE ‘Even if fees were no deterrent to those from poorer backgrounds going to university, further widening the gap between rich and poor, they would still be deeply regressive.’

Show yourself Aaron Porter! Why would higher fees be deeply regressive if they didn’t have that effect? Otherwise it’s just sloppy thinking.

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By: tpi https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-5/#comment-46931 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:31:03 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46931 Also, see http://econrsss.anu.edu.au/Staff/ryan/pdf/La%20Trobe%20DP%20A06-04.pdf – a study in Australia which concluded, amongst other things, that ‘We find no evidence
that credit constraints deter high achieving students from attending university in Aus-
tralia, a country with an income contingent loan scheme for higher education tuition
fees. ‘

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By: tpi https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-4/#comment-46930 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:28:44 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46930 Aaron: Is there any empirical evidence you can link to in order to substantiate the following claim that there exists QUOTE ‘clear evidence that the doubling of fees demanded by vice chancellors would put a significant proportion of students off going to university and that the prospect of debt affects those from lower-income families significantly more than others.’

I haven’t seen any such evidence – all I’ve seen is people telling me there is clear evidence and pointing out that it seems logical. But is it? When I say empirical evidence I don’t mean isolated anecdotes (or surveys where current university students claim they would be put off), I mean studies showing students have been put off and have chosen not to apply / take places at university. Or studies showing increased fees and reduced applications from lower income backgrounds. etc. etc. etc.

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By: WH https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-4/#comment-46666 Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:00:25 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46666 Look what I, I mean my boss, made – http://bit.ly/98WD8h http://bit.ly/9qr7i6 http://bit.ly/aGIwCH >particular like 'corrupt labour cronies'

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By: Dominic Palmer https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-4/#comment-46561 Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:18:47 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46561 RT @leftfootfwd: Double whammy of university policy failures threatens young people http://bit.ly/c7i7pm

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By: Mr. Sensible https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-4/#comment-46546 Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:19:08 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46546 In times when there is likely to be pressure on places, it is not good that the Con Dems have slashed Labour’s target for new places by 50%.

BTW, although slightly off topic, as it is results day, can I just say that I get so fed up of certain commentators in the media saying the exams are getting easier. Do people agree with me that this is an insult to students?

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By: Sophie Bryce https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-4/#comment-46538 Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:55:24 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46538 R.T: Double whammy of university policy failures threatens young people http://bit.ly/c7i7pm (via @leftfootfwd)

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By: John Peart https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-3/#comment-46450 Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:47:28 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46450 RT @AaronPorter: RT @leftfootfwd 'Double whammy of university policy failures threatens young people' http://bit.ly/c7i7pm says NUS Pres @AaronPorter

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By: Shamik Das https://leftfootforward.org/2010/08/double-whammy-of-university-policy-failures-threatens-young-people/comment-page-3/#comment-46437 Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:44:04 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=17687#comment-46437 NUS Pres @AaronPorter writes on A-Level results day for @leftfootfwd on the uni policy failures threatening students: http://bit.ly/c7i7pm

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