Labour lost for a reason Chris – it’s people like yourself who justified the things they were doing that were wrong by constantly excusing them.

You must have known how useless Brown was – you cannot be that naive not to have – yet still your sort kept telling everyone he was great and how he had lead the world out of recession.

Labour will spend years in opposition if their supporters keep ignoring the truth and coming up with excuses like “No one won the election” and so on.

In your world the truth is ignored and the same machine spins away, never answering questions just repeating the mantra while taxes go up and the gap between rich and poor increases.

And how do you respond Chris? Smear the messenger, never answer the question.

It seems to me Labour is clearly alive and well and with your attitude if the party doesn’t go bust I think it will just become the irrelevance it deserves to be. If excuse merchants like yourself stay active then the Lib Dem’s have no problem at the election – why would anyone vote for the Labour Party?

Labour lost the election for a reason Chris, oh yes.

“She obviously means Clegg not me. So aside from lying time after time about what you THINK I’ve said regardless of my posts, you’re now saying I take drugs as well. Are you?”

No, she means you!!! ffs irony and sarcasm are well beyond the limits of you brain cell even when not chemically coshed.

“Chris if you look at the end of Liz’s sentence you’ll see a character that looks like this – £. That is called a Question Mark Chris and it makes the sentence a question rather than a statement.”

FFS! Mouse she is taking the piss out of you! Inferring that your political opinions vary from day-to-day or with changes in the weather! LOL, I thought Billy was the thick troll but I’ll have to revise my opinion, compared to this Billy Blofield is a fucking genius.

“I realise that the educational achievements under Labour have resulted in huge numbers leaving school without the ability to do the 3R’s to any degree but I, obviously incorrectly, assumed that as a university graduate you would at least have a basic grasp of English. (I don’t believe you there Chris. No one could be as comprehensively incorrect so often or so dogmatic in approach)”

wtf? You really are mental, you must be suffering from something! Do you not go out much or interact with people? You seem to totally misunderstand irony, sarcasm or when somebody is taking the piss.

“Finally I do not dismiss the Alien from Zog’s OPINION. You sited OPINION as EVIDENCE of your incorrect position on PFI.
This is an EVIDENCE based blog Chris. I hated PFI when the Tories invented it and even more when Labour implemented it. Still do.”

I’m no great fan of PFI but it allowed Labour to quickly set about rebuilding the countries decaying and broken infrastructure, Brown liked it because it didn’t put debt on the gov’s books – looks like a smart move at the moment! But I still don’t know what this has got to do with DM and whether he is the man to rejuvenate Labour.

“What is not an opinion is the fact you said I was paid to trash Labour in blogs. That is lying about me. Please stop it Chris.”

I’m taking the piss, ffs doesn’t the central office supplied flowchart deal with piss takers?

“Remember Chris: Labour lost the election for a reason…”

No, they didn’t lose for a reason. They lost for many reasons, one of those many reasons was the constant drip, drip of LibCon attack lines poisoning public opinion against some of Labour’s real achievements. Just look at central office’s script and flow chart, its just to the right of your computer:

Raising millions of children and pensioners out of poverty -> attack social mobility, 75p pension increase, etc.

Improving failing schools, increased exam attainment across the board -> grade inflation, state schools still not as good as public schools.

Dramatically reducing waiting times in the NHS -> bluster about money wasted on “managers”.

Now, go look up irony and sarcasm in the dictionary and discuss at the next therapy session with your caseworker. They can organise some day release in to the outside world with an appropriate adult to help you recognise the subtle social cues which signify them in everyday life.

Liz said – “A budget that was fully endorsed by your Lib Dem mates and now Clegg has the cheek to criticise the IFS’ findings saying you can’t measure poverty with numbers…? What drug is the man on?”

She obviously means Clegg not me. So aside from lying time after time about what you THINK I’ve said regardless of my posts, you’re now saying I take drugs as well. Are you?

Liz said: “just out of sheer curiosity, does your political mood/compass depend on which day of the week it is or what the weather is like…?”

Chris if you look at the end of Liz’s sentence you’ll see a character that looks like this – £. That is called a Question Mark Chris and it makes the sentence a question rather than a statement.

I realise that the educational achievements under Labour have resulted in huge numbers leaving school without the ability to do the 3R’s to any degree but I, obviously incorrectly, assumed that as a university graduate you would at least have a basic grasp of English. (I don’t believe you there Chris. No one could be as comprehensively incorrect so often or so dogmatic in approach)

Finally I do not dismiss the Alien from Zog’s OPINION. You sited OPINION as EVIDENCE of your incorrect position on PFI.

This is an EVIDENCE based blog Chris. I hated PFI when the Tories invented it and even more when Labour implemented it. Still do.

Tell me why, from the very page you got me to look at, those other peoples OPINIONS aren’t equally as valid as yours?

You said; “PFI allowed Labour to build a lot more without increasing the national debt significantly, an extremely important point in today’s economic climate.”

That again is NOT TRUE. What it may have done was allow the government of the time to defer payment on buildings it didn’t want to finance immediately and the link you gave shows that is debatable but in any event they have cost us £BILLIONS – or is the BBC’s EVIDENCE of this wrong – has the Office of National Statistics (under Labour not the current government) got it wrong as well? Why are you right Chris and everyone else wrong?

And these PFI contracts were taken out in yesterdays economic climate – not todays – or are you now saying Gordon Brown in the early days of Labour was wrong and in fact the country wasn’t going through economic good times?

What is not an opinion is the fact you said I was paid to trash Labour in blogs. That is lying about me. Please stop it Chris.

Remember Chris: Labour lost the election for a reason…

“Again in a public forum you are lying about things I haven’t said.”

Where have I lied?

Mouse said:
“Liz did not say my position changes”

Yes, the following quotes show Liz clearly thinks your the epitome of consistent and logical comment…

Liz said
“What drug is the man on?”

Liz said
“One minute you are criticising Labour for being too right wing & not working class enough and the next minute you are saying or at least inferring the opposite”

Liz said
“just out of sheer curiosity, does your political mood/compass depend on which day of the week it is or what the weather is like…?”

Mouse said:
“Please tell me why your “Alien from Zog”s opinion is more valid than hers”

I don’t why do you dismiss the alien’s opinion? Why are you dragging up questions from threads which you said were closed, shall I post a few of the points I’ve raised that you never countered as they’re not on central offices script.

PFI allowed Labour to build a lot more without increasing the national debt significantly, an extremely important point in today’s economic climate. But that goes beyond your central office supplied flow chart, doesn’t it, your brain cell can’t compute that your’ll go into the foaming at the mouth anti-Labour tirade.

“Now go and get some work done woman”…
You are not the metrosexual man that I thought you were!!!