Comments on: A green perspective on Ed Miliband

By: Green challenges on transport policy | Left Foot Forward

Green challenges on transport policy | Left Foot Forward — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:00:44 +0000

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By: charlotte g

charlotte g — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 21:20:52 +0000

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By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:37:20 +0000

Liz, I’m getting a little lost by your arguments. Just because most people wouldn’t have heard of the Falklands in ’82 doesn’t mean that the British people living there didn’t deserve to be liberated by their own armed forces. Most people wouldn’t have heard of my home town or be able to point it out on a map of the UK but because I’m not from a well known metropolis does this mean I deserve less rights than say, my London dwelling fellow citizens? You seen to be promoting this view. I’ve heard the ‘Belgrano’ excuse for Labour’s warmongering from other Labour supporters as well. I ask you a simple question, if the Iraq war had been conducted by any party other than Labour would you be taking part in demonstrations and rallies against it, calling for those who sanctioned it to be brought to the Hague? My guess is you, like a lot of your fellow labour supporters would be. I’ve never voted Tory or Labour but although I hate the arrogance of the former, but it’s the hypocrisy of the latter which is truly sickening, sacrificing principles for power and blindly, enthusiastically following the most right wing american gov’t in modern history into mayhem for the sake of oil money, this is something that should make you want to rip up your Labour Party membership card.

By: Nic Seton

Nic Seton — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:51:29 +0000

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By: Liz McShane

Liz McShane — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:23:49 +0000

Anon – I did not like the regime run by Galtieri but I also think that before the war about 99% of he British population had never heard of The Falklands let alone knew where they were located. It won Maggie an election.

By: Anon E Mouse

Anon E Mouse — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:49:10 +0000

Liz – You still won’t address my central point.

What was worse. Coming to the rescue of innocent British people invaded by fascists or launching a war against a foreign country based on lies?

You display aspects of the way the left in this country operate which ordinary people not into politics really do not like. Never answering the question just sticking to your dogmatic point (that may or may not be valid) is not an attractive position to take Liz – you surprise me. You support the Labour Party so you can’t be a pacifist which may make it understandable.

The Falklander’s had the right to self determination Liz and irrespective of what you have been told, to use the Belgrano as an excuse or foil against the Tory Party and that war is morally wrong.

Fascist dictatorships should never be excused in their overseas aggression and for you not to see that, especially when even the useless Gordon Brown admired Thatcher so much is worrying.

Personally when I see Simon Weston it moves me more than a bunch of fascists who should never be forgiven for their actions in the 1980’s…

By: Green shoots of a different kind « Broad Left Blogging

Green shoots of a different kind « Broad Left Blogging — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:28:42 +0000

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By: Liz McShane

Liz McShane — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:21:00 +0000

Was the Belgrano not outside the 200-mile exclusion zone… ? Anyway we are straying massively from the original thread. Apologies.

By: Anon E Mouse

Anon E Mouse — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:02:38 +0000

Liz – I was in the navy on subs with guys that had been on the Conq when the Belgrano was sunk – that’s war I’m afraid. It was a war to free an innocent peace loving community that had been invaded by a fascist dictatorship.

In Iraq we started the war. In the Falklands the fascists did – there is no comparison and to suggest there is is simply historically inaccurate. (Sorry).

My point with Thatcher is that some of the stuff they say about her is simply not true. I didn’t vote for her but she could certainly win elections…

Did you like the link btw?

By: Anon E Mouse

Anon E Mouse — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:49:06 +0000

Liz – I remember this as clearly as if it was yesterday…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWLN7rIby9s

—–ALERT ALERT ALERT—–

Warning to Shamik Das, Joss Garman, Rupert Read, David Taylor, Ben Fox, Mr.Sensible, mike, Fat Bloke on Tour and Kevin Meagher in advance that the link contains something alien to you people – democracy in action at a Labour Party conference.

People with opinions that differ from yours where they are not being smeared by you instead of rigorous and robust challenge.

Contrast that with the New Labour controlled events where a single OAP and lifelong Labour member is arrested under the Terrorism Act for heckling the Home Secretary.

Come back real the real Labour Party I say…