Comments on: Tory attack video full of lies https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:10:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Honestman https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-4/#comment-20031 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:10:19 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-20031 So why believe the Tories, Why Not I ask, After listening To Brown lie to me on every important matter from Iraq, The troops Budget cut, The Chilcott Enquiry, Our Vote on Europe, What happened to my democratic vote, the one my day went to war for. Even yesterday, Brown stood on Mrs, Duffy’s driveway and lied to all of us.

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By: Aled Wyn https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-4/#comment-19964 Thu, 29 Apr 2010 04:40:35 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19964 RT @mattlodder: Tory attack video full of lies: The latest Conservative Party attack viral has been slammed by fact-checkers for a… http://bit.ly/97I6Hx

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By: Matt Lodder https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-3/#comment-19931 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:56:28 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19931 Tory attack video full of lies: The latest Conservative Party attack viral has been slammed by fact-checkers for a… http://bit.ly/97I6Hx

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By: Matthew Zarb-Cousin https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-3/#comment-19930 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:59:56 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19930 RT @mattlodder: Tory attack video full of lies: The latest Conservative Party attack viral has been slammed by fact-checkers for a… http://bit.ly/97I6Hx

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By: MissTJD https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-3/#comment-19722 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:29:56 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19722 RT @leftfootfwd: Tory attack video full of lies: http://bit.ly/bJSNHN

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By: Max Leach https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-3/#comment-19423 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:04:01 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19423 What happens in 1 Minute of Complete Bullshit: http://digs.by/bKq61l

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By: John A Fotheringham https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-3/#comment-19293 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:42:26 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19293 Just in fairness (to the statistics, not to those making claims or counter-claims)

4/minute for all the minutes the schools are OPEN works out on the back of my envelope as 430,000 (admittedly I’m not very familiar with the length of a school day).

I think you can jsutify this stat if you define carefully what constitutes a “minute” in this context. Every minute of every day, or every minute the schools are open. Of course people rarely define precisely what they mean by a statistic, hence their use to mislead.

It just goes to show how people can warp perfectly meaningful stats to their own ends…

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By: Tory attack video full of lies « The best Labour blogs https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-2/#comment-19275 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:21:39 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19275 […] More… […]

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By: J https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-2/#comment-19274 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:20:02 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19274 Or, as the fact-checkers you link to actually suggest:

“There are different ways of calculating the figures that would result in different conclusions.”

It is spin, pure and simple – a rival ‘truth’ to Labour’s own misinformation.

I have no data, but would suggest that Tory figures on job losses are probably – possibly? – based on actual jobs lost, rather than a simple subtraction of “currently employed” and “previously employed”.

E.g. if three people lose their job and one finds work elsewhere, your method suggests only two job losses. Whereas the reality is three.

Incidentally, I hope all politicians and spinners are sucked into a void (where they choke on their own intestines) and that nobody is elected.

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By: Tom Freeman https://leftfootforward.org/2010/04/tory-attack-video-full-of-lies/comment-page-2/#comment-19272 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:10:15 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=12290#comment-19272 And the other problem is that there are no comparisons – is 915 tonnes of CO2 a minute worse than it used to be?

Well, no: http://viva-freemania.blogspot.com/2010/03/green-budget-economys-carbon-efficiency.html

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