Comments on: Cameron must do better than Churchill, Heath and Thatcher to win https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:31:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Anon E Mouse https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-5/#comment-9087 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:31:39 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-9087 Liz – They want to get rid of ID cards, restore civil liberties, reduce the number of MPs to 500 and get rid of centralised big government giving more power to the people.

Took me about a second to come up with that list. Need any more?

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By: Liz McShane https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-4/#comment-8882 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:08:40 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8882 Anon – to say that the tories deserve to win takes a major leap of faith but can you tell me why they do ? Forget about your views of Labour’s shortcomings i am really interestedn hearing your views on the tories!

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By: uberVU - social comments https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-4/#comment-8661 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:41:15 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8661 Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by Paul0Evans1: LFF says that Cameron faces more of an uphill struggle than he may think this year http://tinyurl.com/yggrjcz

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By: Anon E Mouse https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-4/#comment-8570 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:31:53 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8570 Liz – Absolutely not. But they will and deservedly so.

What has *really* got me miffed this morning is watching Andy Burnham and his criticism of the Tory position on healthcare. Then he spoke to PM last night and, as you know, refused a public enquiry into that hospital where the patients were treated worse than cattle and many died through negligence.

He had some fair points as to why no enquiry – (I sided with the people whose relatives and loved ones had died through the hospitals disgraceful behaviour but that’s just me) and then we discover last night that he was the minister who signed off on the place to change it’s status. No wonder he doesn’t want an enquiry.

And that’s just it Liz the whole Labour Party since the current PM took over take the electors as fools, claiming black is white.

For example the only person on the planet who seems to think No 10 weren’t engaged in bullying is Peter Hain on Question Time. Even when presented with evidence and the words of the government’s own chancellor he still denies it.

A new breed will help the left rise from the ashes after the forthcoming drubbing and I just hope it is based on honesty and decency and less on spin and lies and bullying. Less Tony McNaultys and Kevin McGuires and more Frank Fields please.

And before you start on me this time Shamik you may want to check my posts this week regarding Hansard and the confirmation of four cases of bullying agreed by government ministers in the last few years. I rest my case.

Anybody but this current incarnation of Labour please…

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By: Liz McShane https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-4/#comment-8517 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:08:16 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8517 Anon – so you are happy for the Tories to win then?

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By: Anon E Mouse https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-4/#comment-8447 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:20:01 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8447 Shamik – I’m going after Kellner – he’s always been a Labour spiv. YouGov will do a poll for whoever pays them and The Sun has been pro New Labour for over a decade – it only stopped being with what it considers to be the open deceit displayed by Labour in the last few months.

Just note please Shamik and Will that I still think the election will be before May 6 and if you go back over my posting you’ll see I’ve been consistent on this point…

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By: Shamik Das https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-3/#comment-8445 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:11:26 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8445 Anon/Grumpy, so much for not shooting the messenger or going after people’s spouses! And if Kellner’s such a “Labour spiv” why is YouGov doing a daily tracker with The Sun, and why did he appoint Nadhim Zahawi, new Tory PPC for Stratford-upon-Avon, as chief exec of YouGov?!

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By: Politics Summary: Friday, February 26th | Left Foot Forward https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-3/#comment-8358 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:09:55 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8358 […] 3) – with 64% of voters already having made up their mind and only 27% likely to change. Left Foot Forward yesterday reported that David Cameron would have to do better than Churchill, Heath and Thatcher to […]

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By: Anon E Mouse https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-3/#comment-8268 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:18:07 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-8268 Labour will be rightly trounced at the next election – the Tories will win in the way Johnson rightly did in London. Good.

Leaving aside the disgraceful way this government has treated it’s people (did anyone see Peter Hain again last night on QT?) the election will be won in the marginals and suburbs.

For Labour, irrespective of what the Labour spiv Kellner says, it’s over.

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By: Billy Blofeld https://leftfootforward.org/2010/02/cameron-must-do-better-than-churchill-heath-and-thatcher-to-win/comment-page-3/#comment-7573 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:48:32 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=8831#comment-7573 In some ways it would be fantastic if Labour won the election. Clearing up the usual chronic mess left behind by a typical Labour government, would kill Labour.

The sheer size, scale and disfunctionality left behind by the current Labour government, would kill Labour once an for all, if it was also required to go through the pain of clearing up it’s own mess.

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