Comments on: Fresh doubts over the wisdom of nuclear power https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/ Left Foot Forward is the home for UK progressives. We provide evidence-based analysis on British politics, news and policy. Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:43:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.5 By: Cost of nuclear spiralling as clean energy projects face cuts | Joss Garman https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/comment-page-2/#comment-28710 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:43:36 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-28710 […] reactors could cost nuclear utility EDF £50 billion, and that followed research by Citigroup which concluded, “Three of the risks faced by developers — Construction, Power Price, and Operational — are […]

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By: Lekshmi https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/comment-page-2/#comment-6123 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:01:49 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-6123 Elsevier is preparing a work entitled DNA and Biotechnology – The Awesome Skill
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By: Will UK taxpayers have to subsidise French nuclear company EDF « nuclear-news https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/comment-page-2/#comment-1638 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:48:56 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-1638 […] nuclear power report, which this blog examined yesterday, […]

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By: rwendland https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/comment-page-2/#comment-1592 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:24:53 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-1592 The CEO of Exelon (largest nuc fleet in US) very recently told the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works that $75/ton CO2 pricing is needed for economic deployment of new nuclear power. That is rather more than the £30-ish floor CO2 price some in the UK are talking about to make new nuclear power economic. He also said wind power needed a lower CO2 price to be economic at current wind penetration levels.

So if the CO2 price is pitched for new nucs to be economic against gas generation, wind generation should be even more profitable if this US CEO is right and the economics are roughly the same over here. Though this was a sales pitch for incentives, so we need to be a bit careful with his evidence.

Providing enough subsidy to tilt the playing field so nucs are built will be pretty tricky. I wonder how clearly Ed understands this yet.

Here is the link and quote:

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=80f64c95-1286-4fc5-aefd-6afc4e261137

“New wind generating capacity ranges from $45 to $80 per ton depending on the location. New nuclear generating capacity is $75 per ton. A new integrated gasification combined cycle plant with carbon capture and sequestration costs $160 per ton.”

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By: The hidden costs of nuclear power | Left Foot Forward https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/comment-page-2/#comment-1577 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:19:05 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-1577 […] nuclear power report, which this blog examined yesterday, […]

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By: Peter Rowberry https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/#comment-1547 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:51:28 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-1547 Well the government have promised that no new nuclear power stations will be built unless the full cost of generation, including decommissioning and a fair share of waste disposal will be borne by the industry. I aksed Ed Milliband’s office to confirm that this was still government policy several weeks ago and they still have not replied. It is my belief that nuclear needs even more government support than it currently recieves to be cost effective and the existence of nculear, because of the way that much of the cost occurs at the end of the power station’s livfe (waste management and decommissioning) it undermines the take up of renewables, the only sustainable choice to meet our needs.

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By: No Wisdom In Nuclear Power. « ModernityBlog https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/#comment-1532 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:38:27 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-1532 […] 12, 2009 3:38 am Left Foot Forward presents some interesting facts to contradict the British Government’s statements on Nuclear power. Posted by […]

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By: Richard Blogger https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/#comment-1529 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:38 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-1529 The point is very simple. When the wind stops blowing there is no electricity from wind turbines and tidal power is also variable and on it’s own cannot provide all the power we need. Pump storage solutions like Dinorwic are expensive and there are limited places that can be utilised.

Basically we have to have some way to produce base load electricity. Couple into the mess that our CO2 generating power stations are aged (the daft way that electricity generation was privatised meant that it was not economic to upgrade power stations) and it means that we are desperate to build *something*.

Here’s some figures from the Scottish Executive. By 2025 *all* existing power stations in Scotland will be closed. The Scottish Executive want to generate half of the country’s electricity by renewable methods by 2020, but the cost of that has been estimated at £100bn. It is not clear what will be used to generate the other half, or where the £100bn will come from.

I don’t have the figures for England, but I guess they are similarly doom-laden, but on a scale ten times larger. So frankly there are very few options available. There must be some base load generation and to keep to CO2 targets that means nuclear. As you say, there will have to be some public subsidy, but that is a price we will have to pay to stop our lights going out.

At least Labour is talking about nuclear power. The Tories currently have their heads in the sand and are more concerned with NIMBYs than the vast majority of us that need electricity. The Tories are also extremely unlikely to put any subsidy into any electricity generation, which means that if there is a Cameron government there is a very high chance of the lights going out towards the end of his first (and hopefully only) administration.

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By: Christian https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/#comment-8278 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:24:36 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-8278 Fresh doubts over the wisdom of nuclear power | Left Foot Forward: Now the Telegraph reports today, in the fina.. http://bit.ly/1diIFm

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By: Joss Garman https://leftfootforward.org/2009/11/fresh-doubts-over-the-wisdom-of-nuclear-power/#comment-1510 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:54:15 +0000 https://www.leftfootforward.org/?p=3656#comment-1510 I should’ve also linked to this excellent piece from Jeremy Leggett: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/10/nuclear-power-uk-questions

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