Tory council leader believes ‘basic salary’ is 80k

The deputy leader of Westminster Council has caused anger after claiming that a 'basic' first-job salary is in the region of £50,000 to £80,000.

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The deputy leader of Westminster Council has caused anger after claiming that a ‘basic’ first-job salary pays in the region of £50,000 to £80,000.

Talking about housing the London, cllr Robert Davis said

“What we really need is affordable housing, not just social housing, for people who are in their first job, have just got a basic, simple job and a salary of £50,000 to £80,000 a year.”

Cllr Davis made the comments during an interview with a PR company that specialises in working with property developers.

In reality, anyone earning over £50,000 would be in the top 10 per cent of earners, and the top 30 per cent in Westminster. The average full-time employee in the UK earns £26,200 according to the latest figures from the Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings, while the average basic graduate salary is between £27,000 – £29,000.

Fellow Westminster councillor David Boothroyd said it showed “the sections of society the council leadership is in touch with”.

“With everyone else, they’re not so much out of touch, as completely cut off,” Mr Boothroyd said.

82 Responses to “Tory council leader believes ‘basic salary’ is 80k”

  1. TM

    We now live in two worlds. One world the world of low wages, dead end part time and zero hours contract jobs, with uncertainty and less and less chance of escaping that reality, less chances of getting a degree and on the housing market and the contemptuous and borderline fascist ideology that underpins it all coming more and more from the rich and powerful and privileged.
    The other world is that of the rich and privileged, those that live in ivory towers, wealthy, privileged, knowing no hardship but creating it for the rest of us, and with hardly any attempt at hiding their class and race and other prejudices these people have about the rest of us who are not privileged like them. Why do we put up with it? Why does anyone not privileged vote these people in to lord it over us? Isn’t this a democracy after all? What sort of democracy allows the privileged few to carve up a modern country like the slave owners carved up Jamaica in the early 19th century? It is your choice. You live in a 19th century country going backwards and run by people who couldn’t give a toss about you, or you can strive for a country that is at least in the 21st century and is going forward, even if slowly. The Labour Party has to lead by example and that it will change, away from inherited privilege and where people are judged on the content of their characters and not because they are descended from some long dead, long forgotten aristocrat or some shady slave trader.
    £80,000 is a normal wage on planet privileged and planet Tory and planet politician but for most of us £15,000 a year would be considered good. Just where do these people come from? When are you all going to wake up?
    Do you want more of the same, or change?

  2. frank100

    well it *might* have been a slip of the tounge in the course of a very long interview but only someone to whom 50-80k is peanuts could make such a mistake in the first instance if he was thinking of the average starting pay.

  3. frank100

    Yes, they are not stupid, and it does not take any great intelligence to do what they are doing, only a great deal of insensitivity to the pain and discomfort of others

  4. frank100

    What a mistake!

  5. Marc

    This boy is a fucking clown !!

    Im 33 years old with 2 jobs and i don’t even make £14K a year & yet i work 7 days a week and 5 nights a week.
    These cunts have there heads up there arse, Give me a job sitting on a big red sofa in the house of commons/lords lying to people day in and day out and the best part is i don’t even want £50/80K as i will do that for £30K

    I think anyone who makes £50K plus a year should swap jobs for a year with someone that makes as little as i do or other people that have day to day problems.

  6. frank100

    Phoowee! How do you know what subject his degree or even class of degree is? You have nothing on which to base your assumption nor have you anything to back up the assumption that “somebody in their family at one point tried hard enough to make a lot of money so their descendants could enjoy them self’s”

  7. Simon

    to be fair i earned around that in my late teens. If you find a good company to work for and stick with them you can earn more if they have a decent progression program and annual pay rises. i earned 7k in pay rises in 8 years at mine.

  8. Steve

    Can’t believe more people haven’t cottoned on to this quicker. Doesn’t really get as many cheap headlines though.

  9. frank100

    no, thats the lazy right wing concept of the “politics of jealousy” or the “politics of envey” which implies that the complainant wants something for himself. More often it’s the “politics of justice” or the “politics of fairnes”

  10. frank100

    Yes, these are all “earned incomes” trouble is so much of the higher incomes are “unearned incomes” resulting from speculation not true work

  11. Richard Corso

    Could the Councillors electorate please ensure this clown is not re-elected – he’s obviously living in cloud cuckoo land and does not deserve to be in any sort of position of authority.

  12. Runesmith

    Seriously, I want to know. Why does someone who’ll obviously suffer from this government’s policies support them? If we knew that, it would help.

  13. TM

    ‘What an idiot. How did he get his job?’ Because he’s a rich Tory boy with connections and very probably went to the ‘right’ school. Or he is a wonderfully hard working self made man with lots of natural intelligence, a very high IQ and a brilliantly educated man, just like citizen Boris. (note the sarcasm)

  14. TM

    If someone votes against their own interests, they are a) beyond help b) brainwashed, the type who look up to the royals, Boris, etc c) not the cleverest tools in the box or d) the Right wing little Englander type who want to be rich and powerful and because they never will be hate all those people beneath them and above them and probably hate themselves as well!!! Well I suspect only a masochist would vote for such a government as we have now, especially if they were poor or on a low wage. But, takes all sorts hey?!

  15. TM

    We now live in two worlds. One world the world of low wages, dead end part time and zero hours contract jobs, with uncertainty and less and less chance of escaping that reality, less chances of getting a degree and on the housing market and the contemptuous and borderline fascist ideology that underpins it all coming more and more from the rich and powerful and privileged.

    The other world is that of the rich and privileged, those that live in ivory towers, wealthy, privileged, knowing no hardship but creating it for the rest of us, and with hardly any attempt at hiding their class and race and other prejudices these people have about the rest of us who are not privileged like them. Why do we put up with it? Why does anyone not privileged vote these people in to lord it over us? Isn’t this a democracy after all? What sort of democracy allows the privileged few to carve up a modern country like the slave owners carved up Jamaica in the early 19th century? It is your choice. You live in a 19th century country going backwards and run by people who couldn’t give a toss about you, or you can strive for a country that is at least in the 21st century and is going forward, even if slowly. The Labour Party has to lead by example and that it will change, away from inherited privilege and where people are judged on the content of their characters and not because they are descended from some long dead, long forgotten aristocrat or some shady slave trader.

    £80,000 is a normal wage on planet privileged and planet Tory and planet politician but for most of us £15,000 a year would be considered good. Just where do these people come from? When are you all going to wake up?

    Do you want more of the same, or change?

  16. Tom Redgrave

    It depends, clearly someone votes Tory if only people over 50 k i.e.. 10% population voted then they wouldn’t have got elected. It’s for my interests to vote Tory, that won’t stop me voting elsewhere. it’s philosophies if anything, he probably just has different values.

    Tory bashing gets you nowhere, I don’t see the difference at the moment between Cameron and Blair they both suck up to Murdoch and act out the exact same policies.

  17. Runesmith

    Actually, I was hoping to have a serious discussion rather than swap insults, but I guess you screwed that pooch. Never mind.

  18. TM

    I was actually agreeing with you! It’s only a forum mate, don’t take offence and just say your piece. I was being serious as well, with a little sarcasm thrown in for good measure! Why would anyone vote against their own interests??? Beats me. Perhaps a poor Tory voter might care to enlighten us…?
    Yes Tom. But it seems arrogant all the same. That’s perhaps what irks many people not on 50 to 80k and won’t be no matter how hard they work.

  19. Richard David Leaper

    When I saw it I thought “maybe he said £15-£18k?” – and sure enough he did. He sounds like he has a cold (or maybe that’s just his voice) which would make the n at the end quiet. Just like in the rest of the interview snippet.
    Another non-story for you lot to get angry about!! Need something though, don’t you?

  20. Phil

    Wow. What absolute spin. He says “… That ARNT on 50 to 80k per year….”

    The left are a disgrace. Try actually listening instead of imagining. Idiots.

  21. Phil

    Has anyone listened to the recording? He actually says “…people that ARNT on 50 to 80k….”

  22. Lambo85

    Maybe having kid wasn’t the best idea at the time… If people can’t afford to look after themselves why are they having children, its very much a choice these days.

  23. Andrew C Livingston

    Quite sure. He says “50, 80 thousand pounds a year”. Of course, they couldn’t afford to buy a place in Central London either.

  24. Andrew C Livingston

    Nope. “50, 80 thousand pounds per year”.

  25. Andrew C Livingston

    “your jealous of those with more then you with no right to be so.”

    Says it all really, doesn’t it, folks?

  26. Andrew C Livingston

    Folks like Jacob “just know” these things and nothing is going to change his mind. He is a “know nothing” and proud of it.

  27. Andrew C Livingston

    That’s what Marie Antoinette said. And then she said “Pardon me sir, I meant not to do it”. And then they cut her head off and chucked her remains in the Madeleine.

  28. Andrew C Livingston

    No, he does not.

    He says: “But people who, people who, in their first job, just got a basic simple job, on 50, 80 thousand pounds a year, and who want to be able to afford to buy a home in central London…”

    That is exactly what he said. You are wrong.

  29. Andrew C Livingston

    No, he does not.

    He says: “But people who, people who, in their first job, just got a basic simple job, on 50, 80 thousand pounds a year, and who want to be able to afford to buy a home in central London…”

    You are wrong.

  30. Andrew C Livingston

    No, he does not.

    He says: “But people who, people who, in their first job, just got a basic simple job, on 50, 80 thousand pounds a year, and who want to be able to afford to buy a home in central London…”

    That is exactly what he said. You are wrong.

  31. frank100

    That simply shows how powerful murdoch is and how clever/foolish thatcher was to give in to him by letting him have the Times as well as the Sun. Blair just had to keep murdoch on side, Cameron is on Murdochs side. That is the difference between them

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