Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland reaction: Team GB has brought the UK together

Ed Jacobs rounds up the reaction from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to the London 2012 Olympic Games which concluded yesterday.

As the curtain came down yesterday on 16 days of remarkable sporting achievement it stimulated a debate about the role a “British Team” has had to play in enabling English, Welsh, Northern Irish and Scottish athletes to fulfil their potential.


With the SNP’s Westminster spokesman on culture, media, Olympics and sport, Pete Wishart MP, using an article in the Spectator to make the case for an independent Scottish team in future Olympics, across the weekend’s press there was no such enthusiasm.

Arguing such an independent team could not hope to emulate the success of Team GB, Scotland on Sunday’s leader column argued:

“London 2012 has been a triumph, not least for Scottish athletes; but could Scotland enjoy an even higher profile at Rio 2016 by fielding its own national team?

“Without in any way pre-empting the result of the 2014 independence referendum, the only realistic answer is no. Even if Alex Salmond secured a landslide majority, independence negotiations could not conceivably be concluded by the time the Olympic torch arrives in Rio. Unpicking a Union that has lasted for more than three centuries would be a complex and time-consuming business.

“Furthermore, the Olympic rule book stipulates that a new nation’s application for membership of the organisation must take two years: South Sudan is currently excluded under that rule. By that criterion, even the 2020 Olympics could be a tight deadline for an independent Scotland.

“Even today, at the climax of this summer’s Olympic fever, common sense tells us Scots will not decide the destiny of their country on the basis of considerations relating to the Games. But an independent Scotland’s future Olympic prospects is one piece of the mosaic that illustrates the likely outcome of going it alone.

“In headline figures, Scotland’s claims look good, with 14 medals so far. Measured per head of population, Scotland’s performance has been better than England’s. The downside of the population ratio, however, is the problem of producing multiple champions within the same sport.

Of Scotland’s 14 medals, only three were won by individuals: Andy Murray in the men’s singles tennis, Michael Jamieson in swimming and Chris Hoy in the keirin. All the rest were won by team participants.

 


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“If Scottish athletes left Team GB they would be sorely missed; but it would be less challenging for an English team to fill one vacancy than for a solitary Scot to create a local team of peers. Equestrian gold medalist Scott Brash, for example, would need to recruit three riders of similar calibre to himself.

“Even where a two-person team is involved, where is the world-class Scot who could partner Kath Grainger in rowing’s double sculls? Even Chris Hoy won one of his gold medals as part of a three-man cycling sprint team. The reality is that Scotland has been able to win more medals through participation in Team GB than it could hope to gain fielding its own team.”

Over at the Sunday Herald, meanwhile, columnist Iain MacWhirter observed that Scottish Olympians “aren’t exactly lining up to join Team Alex”.

He explained:

“There is scarcely a dry eye in the house as Sir Chris Hoy, laden with medals, says goodbye to the fans who have followed him so ecstatically through these games.

“After a final victory lap, wearing the Saltire of Scotland, a true national hero retires to take his place in the pantheon of sporting fame, while promising to dedicate himself to promoting Scottish cycling as patron of the Sir Chris Hoy velodrome in Glasgow. And here comes the first minister now, jogging alongside Sir Chris, weeping openly, as the crowd goes wild at these Commonwealth Games, which many are saying have ignited a new and positive sense of Scottish national identity, a new patriotism…

Well, in your dreams, Alex Salmond. Such are the sentiments that Scottish National Party romantics hope to hear from the commentary box at the forthcoming Commonwealth Games in Glasgow. They want the ‘friendly games’ to deliver a sporting boost to Scottish nationalism in 2014, just as the London Olympics are being credited with giving birth in 2012 to a ‘new patriotism’ in Britain, as the New Statesman put it last week.

“The left-wing journal talked of ‘a soft and benign patriotism, quite different from the hard, defensive patriotism of the Eurosceptic right or any number of Little Englanders, or some Scottish nationalists’. Mo Farah, from Somalia, winning the 10,000 metres and wearing the Union flag, is the multicultural pin-up for the new Britain.

“And Scotland’s success in these games – an array of gold medals – is being hailed as proof that we are truly Better Together, and that being part of Britain brings out the best in us. This is the break that the No campaign had been praying for.

“Unable to puncture Salmond’s pawky, self-confident nationalism, and unable to shake off the negativism that has coloured the Unionist cause for so long, here was a positive case for keeping the UK united: confirmation at last that Great Britain remains a viable proposition. The London Games have provided an image of the UK that isn’t just about imperialism, English nationalism and public schoolboys signing Rule Britannia on the last night of the proms. It isn’t even white any more, you know.

“In The Spectator, London mayor Boris Johnson jeered:

“One of the many happy features of these wonderful Olympics is surely that they have retarded Alex Salmond in his campaign to end the Union.”

“And it has to be said that the first minister’s suggestion that London 2012 might be the last time that ‘Scolympians’ would compete with English and Welsh athletes looks rather petty-minded as the British team prepares to join in tonight’s closing ceremony. Scottish Olympians aren’t exactly lining up to join Team Alex. Sir Chris Hoy – who of course refuses to take sides in the referendum debate – insists that his success is down to his participation in ‘Team GB’.”

In similar sentiments, announcing plans to host a reception for Welsh athletes in Team GB, first minister Carwyn Jones echoed those thoughts, observing:

Everyone in Wales can be truly proud of what our athletes have achieved as part of Team GB. Their determination and drive has been truly inspirational and made a huge contribution to Britain’s record medal haul.

“The UK can congratulate itself on what it has achieved at these Olympics, from the wonderful creative vision of Danny Boyle’s opening ceremony, through to the flawless sporting events themselves; these have been the greatest Games ever.

“Wales has played its part, from hosting the training camps of a number of nations ahead of Games, to welcoming the world to the Millennium Stadium for the 11 Olympic football matches. We have strong Welsh links to Team GB’s world beating cycling team, who held some of their pre-Games training at the Velodrome in Newport.”

And finally, at the Belfast Telegraph, it is the sense of togetherness that Team GB has brought to the province that has been a defining moment of the games.

In its editorial on Saturday, the paper wrote:

“As the London 2012 Olympics draw to a close, there is a general consensus that these have been among the best Games in recent times. There were stories of triumph and tragedy, and of great achievements against the odds. No wonder there was so much emotion on so many occasions.

“Team GB performed superbly, in what may prove to be the best collective performance in a century. The crowds were supportive, and added a special atmosphere to competitions that were already keenly contested.

“Northern Ireland had it own heroes including the rowers and boxers, and the goodwill crossed all borders. People were pleased at the achievements of Team GB and also of Team Ireland. We in Northern Ireland could claim the best of both worlds, because some of the Team Ireland medalists are based up here. The cheering will not end until after the closing ceremony, but there will be cherished memories of the London 2012 Olympics.

“However it is important to recognise other notable sporting achievements, including the Belfast Interface Games which held its flagship event last night. In the past weeks a number of cross-community sports camps have been held for young people between the ages of nine and 13.

“They have been organised by the Belfast Interface Project, which represents some 45 community organisations from unionist and nationalist areas, and also by the Peace Players International charity. In contests of ‘three halves’, children played soccer, gaelic football and rugby, learning much from each other – and about their sports in the process. This has been a truly inspiring initiative, and it is every bit as worthy of our cheers as the much-lauded achievements of the Olympic competitors.

“These local activities have shown the importance of investing in sport for our young people, as well as in health and education. London 2012 is moving into the past, and much good will be learned from them too, but the Belfast Interface Fames with local children will remain an important part of our future as well.”

65 Responses to “Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland reaction: Team GB has brought the UK together”

  1. Anthony

    LOL look at all the foaming separatists! This is what you generally have to resort to when your main arguments have gaping holes in them that can’t be filled with rationale.

  2. Fergal

    The medal table says GB, the stadium announcer says stand for national anthem of Great Britain, most of the commentators say Team GB, all the tracksuits and gear say Team GB and/or Great Britain….in fact just about everything is Team GB….and yet David Cameron still tried to convince us that Northern Ireland athletes were still very much part of Team GB…..if ever there was an argument for those from NI not to compete for Team GB, Team GB have made it…this is not to ignore that there are athletes from NI who want to compete for Team GB but NI is of course distinct from GB in that strictly speaking it isn’t part of Great Britain but the UK….I remember at previous olympics when the stadium announcer announced please stand for the anthem of the UK of GB and NI at least NI got some recognition…..I noticed that only one or two commentators and only those who were older and more established remembered little things like this….if NI is going to be part of Team GB then there is a need to at least recognise NI….

  3. Séamas Ó Sionnaigh

    “…at the Belfast Telegraph, it is the sense of togetherness that Team GB has brought to the province that has been a defining moment of the games.”

    What an utterly bizarre claim. Five athletes from the North of Ireland competed in the Olympics as part of Team GB. THIRTEEN athletes from the North competed as part of Team Ireland. There was no such “togetherness”. In broad terms each community supported their own national teams, Irish and British. And why not? That is part of what the Belfast Agreement was about: the recognition of two separate but equal communities with separate national identities and allegiances. And the freedom to choose or express either.

    Why fabricate a complete untruth under the cover of reportage? Why try and impose a false sense of Britishness upon the entire population in the north-east of Ireland where non-such exists, misleading a British readership into thinking otherwise. And this from a supposed liberal, Left-wing site?

    This is simply more proof that when it comes to Ireland the Left and Right in Britain speak with one voice. Very disappointing.

  4. Supersonic72

    Dang. Someone beat me to it. I was going to post that link too. LOL

    The Olympics has just reinforced, if not increased the deep divisions between England and its neighbours. Roll on 2014 and the Commonwealths, followed by an overwhelming Yes in the Autumn to get this non-contest over and done with.

  5. Gerard

    Exactly. You know the separatists are in trouble when they swarm all over positivity and try to suffocate it. They wanted a positive case for the UK, so they said, and when it came from these games it overwhelmed them.

    The success of Scots, Welsh, English and Northern Irish in Team GB is a great example of how pooling our talents can give us more than we could dream of apart.

    As Anthony Faiola in the Washington Post said: “At these Games, the United States and China might be coming home with more gold, but this country of 62 million roughly the size of Michigan reminded itself of its uncanny ability to punch above its weight.”

    The end result sportingly, politically and economically for our home nations is that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

    Team GB has shown us what we are capable of when we work together. It is a lesson Alex Salmond and his negative nationalists should learn – use devolution to its full potential (by working with the other nations of the UK) and don’t use it as a tool for division to push your negative, narrow-minded nationalism onto those of us who are positive and progressive.

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